I am having the PE surgery done in 2 weeks

Zaneblue,

This is an issue that has been much debated and is EXTREMELY controversial here. It is very understandable that one should express concern about any form of surgery, especially one that might not be necessary. However, the key here is risk vs. reward, as measured from the perspective of the individual.

I am of the opinion that PE surgery gets a lot more negative hype than is in fact justified by the medical data. The best evidence I’ve come across on the subject indicates that significant problems with the surgery are relatively rare. The most common “problem” is not gaining as much length as one might like.

In fact, the length procedure seems fairly straightforward. It also requires hanging (or some similar exercise) after the surgery, so I kind of look on it as an aid to the kind of stuff we do here, not a replacement. For me, the biggest problem would be the scar, as Thickone mentions.

The girth procedure appears to be another matter. There is at least one influential surgeon who will not perform any girth procedure. No doubt they have made progress with these procedures, but they are much more involved, and therefore more risky, than the length procedure. Still, many are happy with the outcome, like our resident expert Crashex.

In short, there are risks involved, but these risks are very much over-hyped. It’s the same with what we do here. Go ask around and see what people—medical experts and otherwise—have to say about hanging heavy weights from one’s dick, or stretching on it, or submitting it to considerable vacuum pressures, or …

Let’s face it, most people would, or do, think that we men here are nuts!

But we know otherwise!

I myself am no expert on the subject. This is just my two cents.

By the way, welcome to the forum!

8-ball, best of luck with the procedure. Please let us know how it goes.

Well I suppose plenty of girls get breast surgery at age 21. It just seems—oh, I’ll shut up now.

I’m with you zane. No one is getting near my dick with a knife unless they are in a jealous rage and I’m passed out.

To address a few points.

My size is about 7 inches with a good bone press and upper 6’s without it. I don’t get much more specific than that because there are numerous measuring techniques which will all yield slightly different results. Girth is just over 5 at the midshaft. A little thinner behind the head and thicker at the base. I gained about a half inch from PE and probably the same in base girth with only minor additions to my midshaft and head size. I have used almost all forms of PE. The length probably came from jelqing and stretching and the girth is from squeezing and clamping type exercises. I have also pumped and hanged to no avail. The former would bloat my unit with fluid and the latter would pinch and cut off circulation.

In reference to my post operative care, he is giving me the specifics when I go down to get the surgery. He did tell me that I would start by just manually stretching and progress to using an ADS, he recommended the Trac Man. The pumping is mainly for the girth. It increases blood supply to the penis which helps your body accept the new tissue.

The doctor I have chosen is Dr. Gary Reinschild who is widely considered to be the expert at this. I did ask him about the new procedure in China and it consists of cutting the tunica open. Over the course of a year you stretch the scar tissue more and More each time you get an erection. There have been mishaps with the procedure and it doesn’t have a long standing history of success as not many people have had it yet. I won’t be a guinea pig for something like that and the results seem a lot more variable as it relies on you taking erection enhancing drugs for a year to stretch the tissues after surgery. Dr. Reinschild has done over 4,000 of these and referred me to dozens of former patients. I also read testimonials here by Crashhex (who had the same surgeon) and a few others at other forums.

In reference to my age I agree that this is not something to jump into. I have been PEing for many years and I have come to terms with one fact; regardless of any data I am shown I know that I am only about average and I know that I will never be happy with it. My dissatisfaction with my penis size isn’t going away and it really does affect every aspect of my life. Currently I have a girlfriend who is very satisfied with the sex and never made any mention of me needing more size. It doesn’t matter. When it’s all said and done I am not making this choice based upon the feelings of anyone else. I have thought long and hard and I want a larger penis for ME, and I have certainly tried it all and come up short. Surgery is my last option. For the record I am paying for the surgery myself which I am able to afford because I work full time hours in addition to going to college on a scholarship.

Does he do cunts as well? Just in case he fucks up it’s always good to have a fall back plan.

Please don’t shut up. Conversation is good.

Personally, I agree with you: It just seems to me too … At 21 or any age. This is why you won’t see me under the knife any time soon. I won’t even go and get that laser eye surgery done, and this is something I really need.

But as they say: To each their own!

I’m just concerned that we don’t over-hype the PE surger. We owe it to people here to present a clear picture, as best we can.

Now phalloplasty surgeons are telling there paitents in post-op to manual stretch, how funny. I bet there are a lot of phalloplasty surgeons that visit this site a lot for the latest information on PE. Imagine a surgeon saying “Ok, robert, remember to do a couple of V-Stretchs like we went over so you can get ready for the ADS”. :) Good luck on the PE surgery 8-ball BTW.

That seems uncalled for.

Why motivated? Harsh language or harsh sentiment?

The thing about plastic surgery is is both has a failure rate and it has a shelf life.

If girls are having their tits redone after 15 years, how long should one expect a penile operation to ‘last’ for without further intervention.

There’s lots of wonderful things surgeons are doing with more natural tissues and fibres but these technique still have to pass the 15 year test and the 20 year test.

A while ago injecting fat was the wonder ‘natural’ surgery and then it was found that the body reabsobed it and a lumpy mess remained.

Has Crashhex posted his post op pics yet?

I’d say it’s both harsh language and a harsh sentiment. It certainly doesn’t tend toward edification, which is what this forum is all about!

If you are concerned about the long-term success of these procedures, then say so. You could be right. Time will tell. But the same is true for what we do here. Do you know the 15-year and 20-year statistics on those who hang heavy weights from their dicks, or blow them up with vacuum pumps, etc? What about stretching and jelqing? Would you stop even if you know that for some these exercises led to long term complications? I probably wouldn’t. I know I’m taking a risk by doing these things. I take a risk every time I get into a car too, etc., etc., etc… .

There is no need to attack another member.

P.S. I agree with you about the girth proceedures, and I said so above. But the length procedure seems much more straightforward—again, something like an “aid” to hanging and stretching, etc.

>There is no need to attack another member. <

Read my post mot, there is no personal attack in it.

>I’d say it’s both harsh language and a harsh sentiment<

Good stuff.

>If you are concerned about the long-term success of these procedures, then say so. <

I did.

>Do you know the 15-year and 20-year statistics on those who hang heavy weights from their dicks, or blow them up with vacuum pumps, etc?<

Vaccum Pumps have been around along time, so have heavy weights. Do I know the 15 - 20 year effects, maybe not but I’ve read enough about penile injury to know that the risks aren’t zero and that peryones is certainly a long term consideration with manipulation.

>Would you stop even if you know that for some these exercises led to long term complications?<

I stopped PE ages ago.

I thought you might say this. I don’t know what to say, except to point out that there is a distinction between what an author intends to say and what he or she (in fact) says.

I found your comment to be sharp. Perhaps I’m unique in this. But it doesn’t seem too much to suggest that there were more effective ways to communicate your view.

So why did you stop PE? Did you reach your goal? You lucky #$!@% (if you did reach it!).

My comment was meant to be sharp but not a personal attack. Sometimes I am sharp, most of the time I’m fairly blunt :)

There is a distinction also between what is said and what is inferred from what is said.

>So why did you stop PE? Did you reach your goal?<

I reached my length goal minus a few millimetres and didn’t reach my girth goal but then, firstly I wasn’t particularly bothered in the first place (mostly ‘bigger dick = cool’ rather than ‘must improve my sad dick’) and secondly when you get close to a target it becomes less and less important the closer you get.

I wish I could still put quotes in my sig, because this one is a keeper. Thanks, mem! :rofl:

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