I am having the PE surgery done in 2 weeks

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Now this can be rather sharp. On this forum, we are happy if someone reaches their goals. I don’t see a smilie showing sarcasm in your post. What you said in the first quote applies to everyone, not just mem. If 8 was insulted by what mem said, he will say something.

I wish you good luck, 8-Ball.

motivated,

I agree with you, the comment of memento was really out of place.

tps,

I don’t do those. Hardly anyone pays attention to those down there, and the quotes I see deserve the most cover time…on my sig.

Sharp or blunt, at least he is not dull.

Touche!

But my concern is the former. A lot of guys who bring up the idea of surgery receive a lot of flak here—unhelpful and unnecessary flak, in my opinion. Largely, these critical comments seem to be based on ignorance and the over-hyped hearsay that circulates around this topic. For example, check out this thread. This kind of “discussion” is extremely unhelpful. Fortunately, this thread has not gone down that road (yet).

You may be right: I may have inferred the wrong thing from your comment. I have no problem admitting that (if true), as I’m not concerned with myself here.

But in all honesty, put yourself in the position of 8-ball, and bear in mind the crap that is heaped on people who bring up the idea of surgery here. Then, in this context, tell me what the following statment means:

“Does he do cunts as well? Just in case he fucks up it’s always good to have a fall back plan.”

:jumpers:

|But my concern is the former.|

Then it would be well to concentrate on what is said and deal with that. It’s fairly often mentioned here, but in the absence of a face or vocal tones to read, it is fairly easy to jump to conclusions.

|Largely, these critical comments seem to be based on ignorance and the over-hyped hearsay that circulates around this topic.|

I don’t know that I would agree with you on this. Certainly the Doctors performing the operations seem to have the hype advantage in the general media and throughout the web. If the tone differs here, that to my mind is all to the good, and is probably in some small part due to the fact that some of the clients of said doctors have posted here.

PirateSteve comes to mind, who had the ligament operation and lost length in the process. Not an uncommon minority outcome according to the figures I’ve seen, maybe someone will dig up the stats.

|But in all honesty, put yourself in the position of 8-ball, and bear in mind the crap that is heaped on people who bring up the idea of surgery here. Then, in this context, tell me what the following statement means|

I hope it means think about all the possible outcomes. If I can play a small part in talking a 21 year old out of elective surgery for what seems to be a mental problem, then cool. If, however unlikely, I can play a part in dissuading one of the readers of this thread who has not posted but is considering surgery then cool again, and I’m very happy to rub salt, lemons, vinegar and prune juice into open wounds for the said purpose.

I’m the same way mem, because even with a big dick…you still have to sleep with YOURSELF at night.

Mem,

I agreed with you up until the prune juice part.

PS

Will rubbing prune juice on open wounds give you the shits? :-k

8-ball, as you can tell, I don’t want you to get the surgery, but if you do I hope nothing bad happens. I wish you the best.

:nerner: stayed on topic!

Ok, that’s enough. Let’s return to the original topic.

Seconded. This has been done at least twice in the last couple of months.

Oh shit, I don’t want this to go off topic because of me. That was just my little way of saying, “what Mem said.”

8-Ball,

It don’t get the feeling that I am going to be able to talk you out of this. I wish you the best of luck. If you go through with this, please document everything with pictures and notes.

8-Ball, have you considered that maybe through PE you’ve already reaped the “easy” length gains from stretching ligs, and perhaps not much more can be gained by cutting them?

Just out of curiosity, what is your LOT? Check it now and then after you’ve healed. Should be interesting to see if it changes.

Are you aware of any PE’ers who have had surgery in your position - after stalling from manual PE? If so, how much more did they gain after the operation?

Wow, I had no idea you are 21. The things I could have accomplished, to have what I have now then. You are a lucky man. Gary will do a good job for you, he is a true artist. Don’t take discouragement the wrong way here, they just hope you are making the right choice. There’s a lot “they” couldn’t possibly understand. I’ve been post-op for about 7 months now, and things keep getting better as time goes on. I continue to “natural PE” as I did before surgery. I jelq, hang, clamp, stretch and pump. You mentioned the confidence with your penis issue. This will not really change that much after your surgery. I’m in the huge category now, and I still have confidence issues; minor, but still there.

I’m here for you through the entire process. Just ask, and I’ll help you anyway that I can.

Good luck,

Chad