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Is It Ignorant To Say Permanent Gains

Is It Ignorant To Say Permanent Gains

I say that because in reality will we ever stop, you will still have to do maintenance, it’s like saying I’m going to go to the gym for a year gain muscle and never do it again hoping the muscle gains will last me to for the rest of my life or training for a marathon then never running again but expecting the fitness to last decades.

I guess the penny has dropped that this must become part of our lifestyle so the best thing is to enjoy the journey rather than being fixated on results.

Originally Posted by IhaveabigD
I say that because in reality will we ever stop, you will still have to do maintenance, it’s like saying I’m going to go to the gym for a year gain muscle and never do it again hoping the muscle gains will last me to for the rest of my life or training for a marathon then never running again but expecting the fitness to last decades.

I guess the penny has dropped that this must become part of our lifestyle so the best thing is to enjoy the journey rather than being fixated on results.

Well, in case you did not know, the penis start shrinking at a specific age. Men lose length and girth as their hormone levels drop and the use of their penis for sexual proposes is reduced. This is called atrophy, and is normal in anything that is not used anymore.

If you put a cast in your whole arm and immobilize it for a year, they day you take it out it will look thin like a pencil with zero muscle. The reason why we always naturally keep a certain amount of muscle is due to the daily tasks we use them for. The penis is the same.

So when you workout your penis to grow more than it was instructed to by your software (DNA), it will grow, it will be permanent, but again, if you stop the exercise and sexual activity it will naturally reduce size. Now, if you make it grow through exercise and then you spend every day having sex for hours, I highly doubt it will shrink. It is all related to use. So in a general scenario, I believe we will have to keep doing some level of exercising forever.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Allow me to answer this way:

I enjoy exercise; I started lifting a few years ago and my max bench was around 190#, my max barbell back squat was 185# and my best deadlift was 315# for 4-6 reps.

Three years later, I’m easily maxing my bench at 255#, squatting 285# and deadlifting 415# for 6 reps (after back surgery a decade ago, I don’t do a one rep max deadlift).

Anyway, I’ve been busy in my small business and haven’t lifted in 6 months; thankfully, my job is very physical.

Regardless, I can still move about 90% of my max lifts with ease. I’d say that my strength gains were “permanent”. Now, consider the fact that I’m 43, you must know that I will not gain strength indefinitely, right?

However, I do feel that the strength gains I made are as “permanent” as they can be, considering the fact that muscles lose strength as we age.

PE growth is likely not too different!

That’s just my two cents, but I hope it’s thought provoking.

-Horseman-


BPEL 6-3/4" MEG 5-1/4" on 8-2021. Goal: 7-3/4" to 8"BPEL x 5-1/2" MEG

5'-11" and 190# and working back down to decent ab definition. I expect this around 178#.

Originally Posted by igigi
Well, in case you did not know, the penis start shrinking at a specific age. Men lose length and girth as their hormone levels drop and the use of their penis for sexual proposes is reduced. This is called atrophy, and is normal in anything that is not used anymore.

If you put a cast in your whole arm and immobilize it for a year, they day you take it out it will look thin like a pencil with zero muscle. The reason why we always naturally keep a certain amount of muscle is due to the daily tasks we use them for. The penis is the same.

So when you workout your penis to grow more than it was instructed to by your software (DNA), it will grow, it will be permanent, but again, if you stop the exercise and sexual activity it will naturally reduce size. Now, if you make it grow through exercise and then you spend every day having sex for hours, I highly doubt it will shrink. It is all related to use. So in a general scenario, I believe we will have to keep doing some level of exercising forever.

^^This


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

I think one of the drawbacks of the focus on enlargement is that there is a much greater benefit towards optimization and maintenance of penis health and function, that tends to get glossed over. And that is a comparatively small effort for a large return.


Big cock, tight abs, fit body, strong mind.

If we look solely on the tissues involved in our wands, permanent PE gains should be easier to maintain than muscle gains due to the very nature and srructure of collagen fibers in our penises.

However, as igigi noted, all tissues are a subject of atrophy. Atrophy is best cured by workouts, so a wank or two a week can possibly help you to maintain gains to a certain extent.

Nevertheless, PE is just like every hypertrophy excercise - reversible without care. I once was a semi-professional football player with 60 kg on the scale. 10 years after i have quit all exercises for good due to a lower back issue, I fell to 55 kg. BMI was always, and still is, below 15%, so my body is pretty cut for what it is. I plan on going into a reconditioning program, which, in theory, could get me back to 60 kg rather easily, ans continue to my goal of 70 kg muscle mass over the course of five years.


Starting point - 15.5 centimeters BPFLS=BPEL, 12 cm. MSEG /// Goal: 20 cm BPFLS, 18 cm BPEL, 14 cm MSEG

Let the marathon begin - Flowsky's progression

Originally Posted by Buckfever

I think one of the drawbacks of the focus on enlargement is that there is a much greater benefit towards optimization and maintenance of penis health and function, that tends to get glossed over. And that is a comparatively small effort for a large return.

What are these large returns you speak of?

I am relatively young and my potency was always very good.

Now it is even better yes, but most women I know are completely fine with 1-2 rounds of sex.


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm (6.93 inches) start BPEL: 16.7cm (6.57 inches)

[currently decon until aug 2024] latest BFPSL: 21.2cm (8.35 inches) latest BPEL: 19.5cm (7,68 inches) latest NBPEL: 17cm (6.69 inches)

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