Just starting out

Until last week, I didn’t even know PE was possible. It started with doing research on an extender, and my research path eventually landed me here on this forum. I started reading, and the amount of information and testimonies I found made me quickly lose interest in an extender (for now). I’ve just started on the Newbie Routine, and had some questions to make sure I’m doing things the right way:

1. I’ve read about the physiologic indicators for positive/negative/neutral PI’s. After a day or two of following the routine, my penis was feeling periodically sore throughout the day, but I’m not sure I’d call it too painful. Since pain is one of the negative PI’s, am I overdoing it, or is soreness a normal thing, much like any other form of workout (especially when first starting out)?

2. I understand that MSEG stands for mid shaft erect girth - does that mean MEG defaults to head girth? What does it mean/stand for? (could only find EG in glossary)

6. For BPEL, I press the ruler until I can’t push it any further. It sort of feels like cheating though - is this the correct way to do it, or should I just be pushing until I feel a reasonable amount of resistance?

3. I read somewhere that the hot wrap should be as hot as you can make it without burning yourself, but other places that people just warm it or use a bath/shower while doing it. Is there an ideal way to do it?

4. I definitely don’t stay semi-hard for 10 minutes at a time, so I jelq in 1 minute sessions between having to reach the appropriate range of erection. Should I stop my timer while this is happening, and will this still achieve good results?

5. Is there anything not mentioned in the newbie routine that I should be considering or experimenting with?

I’m really looking forward to what kind of potential results I can get from PE, and want to be sure I’m making the most of my efforts, but more importantly do not want to make things worse or cause any sort of permanent issues. I’ve done a fair amount of reading through these forums, but any answers to these questions or generally useful advice would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Great decision!

Soreness happens.

How are some of your other PI’s, such as flaccid hang, morning erections,EQ, etc?

You should feel good through your workouts. If you pick up your penis and it doesn’t feel up to it because it’s a bit tight or sensitive, then stop.

This is a big indicator that you need to recover.

If I am understanding the question correctly, they are the same.

There is room for variability here and it’s hard not to push the ruler in as hard as you can.

No worries, do it.

You might get an extra 0.125”.

Just always push the same because you know when you are cheating yourself.

You are looking for real gains, keep the method consistent.

Any heat is good, too hot is too hot. If it is uncomfortable, it’s too hot. Wet or moist methods such as showers or wash clothes are excellent. If time and/or privacy don’t permit then try something dry, such as heating blankets, lamps, hot air heaters, etc.

In this game I have currently come to lean towards that there are no silver bullets, so whichever heating method allows you to get it accomplished day in and day out, well then, that’s the way.

Sometimes I don’t have time for heat.

If you time it, then time it consistently.

You can jelq between degrees of erection, just control the pressure through both lateral motion and squeeze. The greater the EQ, then back off of the squeeze(pressure)and lateral motion. Less lateral motion, then add a little more squeeze. It’s dynamic and one must be sensitive to their own unique physical response.

Be safe and also work to develop erection control, this is a component of PE that comes in time.

Relative to your question; do what you can because it all adds up. If you can jelq at an 80% erection continuous, then do so, if you can’t, then practice makes perfect.

So much and others will provide all of their love to this end.

One thought that I have is; when it is time to perform, do so without shame:-)

Go with your gut and error on the side of safety.

Welcome to Thunders!

May the gains be with us!

Thanks for the detailed response:

So soreness is okay and doesn’t count as a negative PI? Tricky to know where the line is between soreness and pain, so I’m cautious here. However, I have not had pain *while* jelqing, only soreness the days after. As for flaccid hang, I’m a grower so retraction doesn’t read as an abnormality to me. I haven’t gotten morning wood, but I figured it was just because of masturbation and it being a bit worn out from the exertion heh.

I interpret MSEG as width of the shaft. My question is if MEG considers width of the head, or only of the shaft? If not, is there a measurement that does account for head width?

Lastly, when you refer to developing erection control, you’re referring to techniques such as edging?

Thanks again!

As for PIs, I’ve often found during periods of regular jelqing, my EQ sometimes goes down. Although this is only temporary and shows that tissues are being broken down and reconstructed.

Start slowly and work into a more set routine. Resist the urge to do more until you are conditioned and have a firm grasp of each technique. Constant heat will be your friend.

Welcome aboard!

Just to confirm before I post current measurements, so that I don’t do so incorrectly - MEG is head width, shaft width, or whichever is greater?

(Don’t see a way to edit posts)

To above - never mind, seems to be that MEG and MSEG are the same.

MSEG is the most common girth measurement and the one that most guys aim to increase when working girth. If you want to list and track things like base girth or head girth than by all means do so. This is common in people who either want to improve on those specific areas or those that feel those are their stronger areas. But MSEG has nothing to do with head girth.