Kegels are ruining my penis.

What good is a penis, of any size, if you can’t use it? This is the problem currently facing me, because I have developed premature ejaculation do to kegels. I was able to last for hours with edging before I ever did kegels. Now, I can’t edge, not even once, and I am done, after LITERALLY 4 strokes. I was done at 4 strokes.

I’m lost, and I’m actually really depressed right now to even be mad, which I’ve seldom felt. Without kegels, I don’t have a usuable penis. With kegels, I have an unusable penis. Reverse kegels don’t work, because there is no middle ground due to kegels. It goes from normal to ejaculation without any warning, almost instantly. I just need some help, because I don’t know what to do.

If you haven’t done kegels before, that might be the problem. Its like working out for the first time. Your muscles are somewhat weak and you might actually cum quicker when you first do them. Once you do them on a daily basis, it’ll get better :)

Here is just another case.

Westla defends the fact that it delays ejaculation which I am sure it does for some, but what about guy’s like Springer240.

Springer240” are you sure it’s the kegels causing this?

I have the same problem with the kegels.
Like you said about” from normal to ejaculation with little or no warning.

I wonder, for the guy’s that have prolonged ejaculation from kegels:

Is it because they somewhat eliminated your constant urge to cum? ——OR
That you still have the urge to cum quite a bit and that now you can hold them back?

Can someone please tell me exactly HOW kegels helped them?(via: Desensitized, better control of the urges etc…)

I am going to start a thread on this soon and possibly a poll.

Well, in that case the easiest thing would be to simply stop kegeling altogether and get your stamina back…

…although the above quote would indicates that you were doing your Kegels for a reason. Which one? Some sort of erectyle dysfunction? Why exactly are you in a dilemma right now?

Just keep in mind that the PC muscle is a muscle. You have to take the bodybuilder approach. I personally do my own customized kegel/edging session about 3 times a week. If I do it for 2 consecutive days or more, my performance goes down. If I keep it at 3 and even 2 times a week, my performance goes up. You can actually gauge your progress by paying attention to the force of your ejaculations.

I suggest you rest your dick for about a week or more. Don’t even have sex during this time. PE takes more patience than any other activity I know of.

Biggy_wang:

I for my part was doing some kegels a while back (one and a half year ago), combined with some serious edging sessions. During my edging sessions, I would just stop all stimulation and do a very hard squeeze of my BC muscle followed by a push-out kegel when getting closer to the point of no return. After some seconds, I would then start over again with the stimulation. But now the difference was that I didn’t feel as much stimulation after the first stop-squeeze-push-rest-action. It took me longer than before to reach the PONR once again. If I reached it, I would just do the stop-squeeze-push-rest thing again and be ready for round three. As you might have already guessed, it would take me even longer to reach my PONR than in round 2. After round 3, I was basically able to go on and on without coming even near the edge of orgasm.

So in summary, I would say that a combination of kegels and my edging technique as described above led to some sort of desensitisation. However, I cannot account for kegels alone having enabled me to last longer. And I have some doubts that kegels alone could actually do that for me.

If you have any more questions, just ask away. :)

Later,
Wally

Well, since I’ve started PE, my erections have been getting weaker and weaker. I compare it to a bigger car but with same engine. I have to kegel for a bigger engine for my larger penis frame.

I’m also not SURE its causing this, but it was never a problem until I started kegels, so I narrowed it down to this so I would say its probable.

If you don’t recommend kegel exercises everyday, do you recommend every other day?

You mention you did this a year and a half ago, so I was curious, do you still do this?

Did you just do one rep BC squeeze and push/ or more?

Also, just to make sure, you would do the kegel and reverse kegel when very close to PONR correct?

Thanks Lazy Wally for your insight, very helpful.

I’ve been misunderstood.

Doing the kegel exercise will strengthen the bulbocavernosus (also called bulbospongiosus) muscle. This is the muscle that helps pump blood into the glans and which surrounds the urethra and helps force semen out during ejaculation (spurts). Having a stronger BC muscle is considered by many to contribute to overall penis health or to better erections.

If one wants to become multi-orgasmic one must learn to stop the BC from contracting just before the “point of no return” in the ejaculation cycle. One can do this in two ways. By consciously clamping down the BC which prevents it from going into the rhythmic contractions of ejaculation. It’s a “continuous kegle” if you will. Held long enough this causes muscle fatigue and prevents the completion of the ejaculation. The other way to prevent ejaculation, and one I feel is not as good, is to consciously completely relax the BC by doing the so-called “reverse kegel.” For some this works better than a continuous contraction.

I did not say that doing kegels will make you multi-orgasmic or that doing kegels will delay ejaculation or that doing reverse kegels will do either or that kegels have anything to do with premature ejaculation. Read this article: http://www.emed … ed/topic643.htm

An interaction of both works the best: clamp->release->clamp->release..

Controlling ejaculation only by clamping is extremely hard, but if you also release a few times also (being careful not to ejaculate of course), it becomes much easier.

Maybe it’s something like this:
ejaculation is itself a sequence of contractions and releases of the BC muscle, right?
If you intentionally reverse that sequence, the result must be , nothing.

Consider your inner wiring creates this: 1-0-1-0-1… (1=contraction, 0=release)
If you do this meanwhile : 0-1-0-1-0.. ,

Well, I’m not sure, but that 1-0-1-0 method is better to stop ejaculations ,I’m sure :p

My experience is that stronger PE muscles are awesome for delaying orgasm. Whenever I get real close, I use my strength down there to, it’s almost as if, squeeze the orgasm back into my body again before it comes out, and then resume activities again. When I am weak, it feels like orgasm just kind of fall on my lap, so to speak, with no control, like incontinence or something.

Maybe it’s the way I almost visualize it as it’s happening that makes it work so well for me. Maybe you need to focus on really tensing the muscles to hold the orgasm back.

I have complete control of my orgasms (I know, sounds like a shameless pug, but it’s true) and I am in the reverse kegel camp.

I tried kegels and I didn’t have the same control. I don’t do them.

It’s an individual thing, I guess. Some guys get more mileage with kegels. Others, including myself, with not fooling with kegels, at all - which, I guess, is a reverse kegel.

Nope, although I’m a quick cummer. I don’t know why I didn’t continue this. Really should start it again… but I haven’t had sex in a while. :)

I did do just one hard squeeze, lasting three or four seconds followed by one reverse kegel which would last two seconds perhaps (I really was a bit scientific about this at the time ;) )

And yes, you’re correct - I wouldn’t kegel until close to my PONR.

Whom, perhaps it is something else? My hypothesis is that you may be growing and I may be wrong but the bigger the hose the longer it takes to fill up with water. Oh yes too much booze could be the cause and certain blood presure medications could produce the ejaculation w/o getting hard.

Springer240 try this:

The next time you’re about to cum, take one of your hands and push hard on the area between your testicles and your anus and then do short kegels after a few seconds. It helps me a ton and it may condition your body to use kegels as a way to help delay ejaculation. I’m no psychiatrist though :) .