Kegels "Good or Bad"

MeLoco said:

I stopped myself from coming after the point of no-return, but I didn’t have an orgasm. This was after a really long edging session, and I didn’t come afterwards. I had such terrible blue balls even after a long hot shower. How to avoid this when I’m with a girl? What do you have to do to have a non-ejaculation orgasm?

It seems like the more I read these posts the more confused I become.

When you are edging and about to cum which do you do a kegel or a reverse kegel and what are the results received from each?

I recently started edging with reverse kegels I seem to go about 10-15 mins but I have to stop after I reverse kegel and I’ll orgasm immediately once I restart. I’ve noticed some progress after I cum I don’t use my erection which in a way is encouraging.

Previously I would try to do kegels I almost held back the orgasm but I find it very difficult to focus on clenching the BC while inside a warm pussy so I always cum. I can clench for 10 seconds normally no problem but I expect my BC needs a lot more work I’ve only been at it like a month.

How long did it take for you to be able to hold back from ejaculating and after you hold it back do you have the urge to cum again and you have to repeat the process all over?

Thanks for the help

Mr. Nine,

So I realize I am replying to an old post, but I thought this might help. If you experience headaches from non-ejaculatory orgasms, try touching your tongue to the roof of your mouth while having sex/ masturbating. I know it sounds completely stupid and unrelated, but it supposedly closes a circuit of energy (qi) in your body. It is taught as the first thing to do when practices qi gong, which believe it or not you are doing if using tantric sex methods to stave ejaculations.
What probably happens when you have a non-ejac orgasm and get a headache, at least in terms of chinese medicine, is a short circuited rush of qi to your head.

Wait! I don’t really understand! So you KEGELS when normally and do REVERSE KEGELS during masterbation/sex/edging and then KEGEL right b4 the point of no return??

*But the main problem I think a lot of people are having is that KEGELING in general causes their BC muscle to involuntarily flex/kegel during sex/masturbation which leads to premature ejaculation!!

Please help!

Bump

I wonder if piss pulls, rather than 5-10 second holds, cause it?

In my experience, the problem lies in doing ‘quick’ kegels. In the beginning I practiced with very quick kegels with a short period of holding the muscle. This lead me to kegel involuntarily during sex and masturbation as well. You should always hold the kegel long enough to really feel it. I think the hardest part is isolating the BC and then holding it really strongly.

Yo that makes some sense pauly891 and maladict, if the whole point of kegeling in the first place is so that you can stop ejaculation by holding the kegal during the PONR + stronger erections. THANKS!

PROBLEM IS: Dr Lin explains why kegels are bad here

PC muscle exercises - Kegel exercises, premature ejaculation, and sex orgasm

I don’t know if this is all BS or not. L@@k!

Kegels are not bad, by themselves. Kegel exercises make the BC muscle strong enough to stave off ejaculation at the PONR.

Sometimes I will kegel like crazy to get to the PONR faster, back off, balloon, and kegel to stop ejaculation if I get too stimulated.

You must control the muscle and the stimulation. (eg. If you are with your girl and feel like you are going to blow, I don’t know of anyone who can slam away, and not ejaculate. However, if you get close to PONR during sex, and slow way down and or stop and do something else, you can last indefinitely)

I think it is a fallacy to believe that people have some magical control of the instinct to cum, and keep going and hold it back. I can mmo, and have really good control of the bc. If I really try hard, I can actually stop an ejaculation from happening AFTER the PONR, but so what.

The BC muscle control exercises, (kegels), are, IMHO, there to teach you how to be in control of you. At some point, nature will take over. In my experience, and as long as you don’t shoot in 2 minutes, women will be more pissed if you don’t cum at all than if you cum after 10 or 15 minutes of pleasure. (keep in mind, it turns MOST women on, to know that THEY made you cum)

If a girl gives you shit for being a quick shooter after "ONLY" ten minutes of ramming, the problem is with her, not you. (IMHO,….of course ;) )

So what you guys are saying is that you are NOT supposed to kegel while penetrating, but ARE supposed to kegel before the point of no return?

I’m not even sure, do most people kegel while penetrating? Doesn’t that both feel good and make your girth larger?

For what it’s worth, my wife can orgasm from me doing kegels inside her. I love it when she cums and squeezes down with the same frequency.

Although she is extremely multi-orgasmic. Last week we kept track and counted 27 orgasms in the span of an hour (25 with penis in vagina).

I made myself a different kegal routine which is 50 x 10 sec. holds and taking 2-3 days off to rest the pc muscle to see if it makes a difference in my erection and stamina. I don’t think everyday kegals work for some because when I stopped kegaling I had hard erections and cum shot a lot furher but when I kegal everyday I barely shoot sometimes because my pc is always tired.