My Personal Experience And Problem

Although I’m not much of a believer in this kind of stuff I went ahead and had a look. I’ll give it a try since you suggested. Why not. Thank you. Not much to lose but 5 minutes of my time I guess.

Ok I disagree with most of trapezius perspective here.

Firstly, you can’t really say jelq is the main culprit with your poor EQ. How can you be sure?? And you’re advising shadow to stop doing jelqs? Personally, I don’t think it is the jelq. It is how you jelq. Little to everyone know how much force you can do with your hands. Try to go to the gym and lift some weights. Even for first timers, a beginner could lift a 10lb plate easily mate. Imagine doing that to your dick. With full force and full power. You don’t normally use your dick as with your hands and feet everyday no? Have you ever had rough sex with your partner? Like hardcore? What happens after that? You lose the erection, right? You damaged your dick. And your hands can do the same mate. Thats why observing the PI is such an important thing to do.

Secondly, you’re promoting ultrasound therapeutic heat. I have nothing against this. But this is such a new concept here in PE. The legends PErs never had this before, they made good progress. I am not saying I am against this. But come on man. Even porn stars have never promoted this mate. Most doctors won’t. Some do. But not all. And what little knowledge do we have with this? Have you even tried it? Why not recommend him to the ultrasound heating thread? Where people who have tried it can give him more details on what is it like.

Thirdly, you mentioned you take viagra and trt. Do you have any idea of the long term effects of those drugs? Yep, they cause ED in long term. Why? Because your body relies on drugs. Instead of your body trying to figure out how to make things work by itself. It is like giving a homeless man food without teaching the homeless man how to be self-sufficient. When the giver is gone, so as the homeless man will suffer. That is the exact same thing on what you are doing to your body. Take off of the medications, your body won’t know how to make it work since it has forgotten to function.

Lastly, the main concerns with PE is people want a quick fix. You mentioned, when you were young, you liked to watch porn. How long have you watched porn? Years? And you expect your body to fix it in days? Hows your testosterone? If you had yours tested normal today, does that mean it was normal before? Do you drink a lot of milk? Or estrogen foods? Studies say estrogen is inversely correlated with erections. How often do you masturbate? Have you been to the doctor and have it tested and actually say that you have fibrosis? Or did you just self-diagnosed yourself? Are you diabetic?

There are so many other reasons why our dick loses its function. And I know, jelq can affect it too. Because the way you milk your dick can desensitise the feeling or pleasure that you feel from it. However, that doesn’t mean it is the main reason for ED. There are loads of possible reasons why mate.

Me, myself. Jelq enhanced my EQ. I do think the 10 minute newbie jelq, is a bit too much for me because I was losing the erection. So, I have lessen the force and the time. After, my erection was as hard as a rock. In addition, other factors like lifestyle, psychological issues, stress and health, I have been taking good care of mine

So, yeah. I don’t have a specific advice mate since I am still young and new to this. Sorry. But I hope I made sense. Correct me if I am wrong, ill be happy to be stand corrected.

It’s good to hear others opinions wether we agree or not. However I am open minded to things and could never say that the jelq 100% had anything to do with any ‘damage’ caused, although this is what I expect is a possibility.

I agree with you that in the beginning my erections would suffer at first then they could get harder at other times. As the years go by though my erections continued to progressively get worse. I think when I was younger the extra hormones probably helped, but after years of rough sex (and possibly aggrevating any previous damage) and getting older, it has continued to get worse and more common.

Like I said initially, my problem is that I can actually get hard with some effort, however this does not last any length of time without stimulation. I remember reading someone explain what they felt in one of the venous leak threads and that’s kinda how it feels for me. Like I can feel my dick pulsing and filling up with blood but at the same time it’s pumping out at almost the same rate. I can actually watch it trying to maintain itself for around 10 seconds before deflating like a burst balloon!

Also, not totally sure if some of your questions are aimed at me or T. If you’d like to direct some questions in my direction I’d be happy to answer.

I don’t believe you need ‘corrected’ when you are only working of the information and knowledge you poses. Just because some of your views are different does not mean you are wrong, although I will correct you if I feel it’s necessary! *Smiles

Thanks for your input

Ok so I think these question may be aimed at me so here goes.
1) I certainly am not expecting, nor looking for a quick fix.
2)Porn yes years, half my life, however I have had breaks of Months - Year. I DO NOT expect my body and mind to fix in day.
3) Last time I checked T was in the mid normal range. This was a few years back. I have booked a doctor’s appointment for today though and will make sure I get some more recent blood results. I don’t think my sex drive would be this high with low T but hey I could be wrong!?
4) I avoid excessive milk consumption and avoid as many estrogenic food as I can like soy. I also eat a lot of the things supposed to help with nitric oxide production. My diet is generally pretty good and I work out 3-6 days a week.
5) I’m known to masturbate way too much for a period of time, then not as much. This is something I’m avoiding at the moment.
6) I have not been diagnosed, it’s kind of self diagnosis, although I am not actually diagnosing myself, merely speculating or hypothesising a possible outcome. I am in the process of getting an official diagnosis, so I can work from there.
7) Not diabetic. Need to see my blood work though and see if anything is out. Maybe cholesterol or whatever. I’d suspect if anything is out of range by quite a bit, it could have effects in many different places, so I will strive to correct any imbalances when I have the blood work as a guide.

Hope this answers your questions, and hope they were the ones aimed at me! *Laughs
Cheers.

I believe jelqing can be done safely and even get benefits from it. But done wrong the risks are there more than with example manual stretching. I have gone full force with manual stretching hunreds of sessions and I could not damage my dick, but definitely don’t recommend doing that! The problem is that when guys read instructions from internet "50-80 % erection and not too hard". It is so relative concept what everyone thinks is right amount of force because it cannot be measured and every guy has his own subjective feeling. And when there is new young eager guy trying PE the risk of going too hard with jelqing is quite high.

Leo, veteran of PE does not recommend jelqing. Because of it’s possibility to cause fibrosis and decreased EQ. Instead recommends water pumping to do same mechanism expanding dick inside out, but with more controlled force with gauge pump.

I don’t promote anyone to buy US device and use it at home for PE heating. I was talking about ultrasound for ED done by doctor at office. Very expensive threatment at the moment, but data is promising helping with light ED.

TRT I am in for life, because I have primary hypogonadism. Sildenafil and tadalafil I have not aware could lose their function of inhibiting pde5. If I would have good EQ without them I would not use them.

That’s the right way of doing jelqs with light enough force and time.

Ok. Sorry if my post sounded a bit rude. I am actually known for being too direct. Apologies mates! And no shadow, I was aiming at trapezius’ post. But thanks for the inputs mate. And who doesnt like rough sex? Lol. Age for me is just a number. I might be saying this now because I’m still young, mid 20s. But I work in healthcare and I think the problem with aging is the decline of everything because of the lack of use or misuse and not maintaining it. And you’re not old mate. You’re 32! You should still be able to fuck for scotland lol.

At first glance, the post seem a bit off to me. Like, when you (trap) mentioned being on TRT. The topic was about ED. We never had a clue you have hypogonadism. Well, in that case, yeah. You should. Thats a medical condition. By all means mate. In addition, sildenafil is a wonder drug. But almost all drugs have its own risk. Pharmaceuticals and doctors won’t tell you about the tolerance you build. Just like pain killers. If you have been taking them quite frequently, at some point youd end up with such a strong drug with high doses and it still woundt be enough for you. In summary, it hides the problem but it does not sort out the main root issues. If that makes sense. Tho, drugs are essential. It is just not good for long term if you don’t have any medical condition.

I guess each individual is different. One might not work to another. Thanks for all the input.

And yeah just to mention. I am bisexual. So, I have slept with dudes. Knowing PE kinda makes me weird. Because I do question the guys unit I sleep with. Like, the guy whos EQ is over the top. Just a bit of a history (he’s married with 3 kids. Mid 30s guy when I met him). He is older yet his D was much harder than mine and spontaneous. When he gripped mine. I couldn’t handle how tight his grip was. He told me it is the same force as he would use when he masturbates. And I thought, maybe he unkowningly PE all his life without him knowing. However, I am just speculating. And I havent been with dudes for years since me and my girl have been together for quite a while now so, my experience is not enough to make a good assumption. I need to be gay more lol

Just wanted to say, I really enjoyed your post. Especially the ‘And you’re not old mate. You’re 32! You should still be able to fuck for Scotland lol.’ bit.
That put a smile on my face!
Trust me, when the thing occasionally works well enough, I certainly still can fuck for Scotland!
My problem is if I stop, or lose my ‘flow’ then we have a problem!

Thanks for your contributions to the thread mate!

I have spoke with a doctor today on the phone and I have an appointment tomorrow morning 9am for blood work (testosterone) also some other stuff.
He actually asked me what I would like to do if everything come back ok and within range. How would I like to proceed? Found this a bit funny that I had to explain what I thought the process should be, but also nice to be asked my opinion on moving forward with this issue.

Total Test
SHBG
Estradiol (preferably with LC-MS/MS)
LH
Prolactin
DHT

Those at least. But I can already say that if your libido is high and you feel fine that you don’t have hypogonadism. Still good to check.

In my country you don’t get TRT if you do not have hypogonadism. It’s quite tightly regulated.

I very much doubt so myself also.
What is the benefit of having all these?
I know about SHBG and free test. But not sure how the others would effect my issue?

Also will this be covered in a general testosterone blood test by a doctor in the UK or is this something you need to request - like an in depth or extensive test?

LH you only need to take if you have indeed low T.

Too high or low estrogen, erection not optimal.

DHT to tell if conversion from test to dht is ok.

High prolactin destroys erection. I have experience with that.

I went to the doctors last week to have bloods taken and testosterone checked.

I got some results over the phone today and was asked to arrange a fasting blood test to measure my glucose again, and also do another blood pressure check.

From what I gather on the phone these are my results (UK measurements as I’m in Scotland)
I will try and convert testosterone, to give an idea to our other brothers.

Bare in mind this was only given over the phone so I don’t have detailed analysis, only totals. I will look more into the breakdown when I go in again next week, and get a print out of results.

I’m 32 years old.

Total testosterone - 13.7 nmol/L (approx. 395 ng/dL)

Blood glucose - 7.2 mmol/L (approx. 130 ng/dL)

Cholesterol - 5.1 mmol/L (approx. 92 ng/dL)

The reason I include glucose and cholesterol is because the doctor said they are both slightly high. The glucose being why I’m to go back for a fasted test just to be sure.

She obviously said my testosterone is fine, Even though when I had it tested only 5/6 years ago (at 26/27) it measured 18.1 nmol/L (520 ng/dL)
This was when I first went to the doctor about my ED issue.

I will have better details once I get the full test results.

It would still be nice to get others opinions in the meantime, and any suggestions on things I should be asking or discussing with the doctor.

Advice greatly appreciated!
Cheers.

Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this? I know I need to discuss with the doctor, and that is exactly what I will be doing when I get the chance.
Still some opinions would be good out of curiosity.

Sometimes doctors are not always right, and I’m pretty sure they are gonna tell me everything is fine (which it might well be)
Thanks.

I am 55 yo, and I have a testo level that varies between 12,5 and 13,7, and Im sure that your level is ok. Are you feeling a sex drive, feeling horny - then you’re ok. Your glucose should be under 7, and the level you got for that point in the day, had just something to do with what you had been eating that day, and that is why your doc wants to do a blood test early in the morning, without you have had anything to eat since the evening before. Your cholesterol level is also affected of what you have been eating and your physical activity from the time you was eating, and to the time for the blood test. The cholesterol should be under 5, preferably 4.

Thanks. I appreciate your input. The sex drive thing is hard to explain. I would say I have a high enough sex drive, but maybe don’t get all that horny a lot. Maybe I get mixed up between sex drive and just wanting to have sex, because that is something I do want to do, however I’m not sure if there could be a difference between just wanting to have sex, and having a high sex drive.

Maybe it’s not so much that I have a high sex drive, and possibly just that I enjoy sex a lot so want to do it a lot. Possibly I have some other issue and to cope with it I just want to have sex all the time because it feels good and is a good distraction from life. I really don’t know, now I’m just guessing and throwing some shit out there. Hoping to find some sort of solutions.
Frustrating.

Maybe I am just fucked in the head!