No Gains After 7 Months

Whatsup guys.. I hate to even make this post as I’ve seen so many and all the responses are to keep patient (which is very true and I will.)
I guess I’m kinda looking for reassurance of whether to continue my routine or to switch it up, and if anyone has struggled to begin and gained later on?

I did 5 consistent months w newbie routine. No gains. So I’ve moved to More advanced techniques for the last few months.

Current Routine: 2days on 1 day Off..
120 4-5 second dry jelqs (focusing on max intensity each stroke)
Manual stretches.. Between the cheeks 2 min. Behind right leg 2 min. Left leg 2 min. Down and to the side 1 min each side. Couple straight out.
I use 10-15 min heat pad for my warmup.

Anyways. I’ve been very articulate in my approach and thorough and consistent w my routines. 2 days on 1 day off. Nearly 8 months I have minor BPFSL gains. Maybe 1/8 inch length, if that, but Zero girth which is my priority.
Is it reasonable to just think I’m unfortunately my just a hard gainer and may not see girth gains with this, or just stick w what I’m doing currently?
Anyone in the same boat eventually see gains? Couple words of encouragement may even help at this point lol. Sorry for the rant..
Respect,
J

I started getting girth gains from pumping, I built up to pumping 20-30mins twice a day.

Nice dude. How long into PE did it take to start seeing your gains, and what have they been?

I got 3cm in 4 months. Hanging, pumping, manuals which are my favorite and vacuum ads 8-12 h/day. Maybe doing too much or too little. Each case is different. Check total man on YouTube

Ultimately, what matters is whether or not a technique is working.

It seems like (from what I’ve read) newbie gains are easy to come by by any method. So if many people are trying the same routine, but some gain and some don’t, there must be some variability between people in how they respond to any given technique.

However, when it comes to manual stretches or extenders, how could you quantify the amount of force exerted? People might be following the same instructions, but actually using very different amounts of force that impact the results they get.

I’ve had good relatively sustained results from light hanging and light pumping since I restarted PE. I did gain some from jelqing in the distant past before moving on to clamping, which produced fast gains for a time before a hard plateau with side effects.

Right on Sogmoid.. Would I benefit from taking a Decon break? Or is that just too soon for that? Reckon I’ll just continue for a couple more months and check girth again.

I’ve actually since re measured and do have some BPEL gains, which I am stoked on. But I’d hate to see those go away w a break. But regardless, I need girth. Thanks for the replies so far!

How are your PI’s (EQ and night/morning wood)? If you have good PI’s this suggests you have good conditioning and you may want to try 3 on 1 off. Always monitor your PI’s, especially when changing routines.

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How are your PI’s (EQ and night/morning wood)? If you have good PI’s this suggests you have good conditioning and you may want to try 3 on 1 off. Always monitor your PI’s, especially when changing routines.

They’re pretty good rn tbh.. It kinda comes and goes in waves. I started PE with pretty much having ED and having to use boner pills for sex most the time (whether I was psychologically dependent or really needed them) which is a whole other post in itself considering I’m a very healthy and athletic 25 year old lol. However, I’ve been noticing on my new routine w dry jelqing I’m not needing to use them ever anymore and getting Erections in my sleep all the time and often wake w Morning Wood way more than I think I ever have. Must be a good PI.. My natural EQ is getting better 👍🏼

I don’t see much flaccid difference other than a decent hang/fullness for a few hours after my workout. I’ve had a couple little purple spots in the last few weeks (one or 2 a little larger) which isn’t a positive PI, but certainly indicates I’m creating a lot of pressure built up down there imo..

Only real negative PIs have been skin irritations throughout my journey and the occasional times when I’ve overworked either kegels or my workout and been to fatigued for sex for a day or so..

I did mess up in my newbie days and try more advanced manual clamping and saw minor gains (possibly just fluid retention). But after reading more thunders I stopped and took a 2 week Decon break. Don’t want to have myself or others jump to conclusions and ay it’s premature toughening forsure, just throwing that out there. When I returned I started slow w wet jelws for a few weeks before moving to my current routine (dry jelq)
Thanks and sorry for the rant just painting a picture

I think you should skip the jelking and at least double your stretching time. What grip do you use for stretching?

Do you jelk before stretching?

How much force do you use in stretching 10 is max you can pull, 1 is very light pull?

My goal is to gain girth more than length, so it would be counter productive to stretch and not jelq. As for my stretch grip. I’d what you’d call it tbh.. Just grip right below the head and use the stretches I showed in the original post. I’m actually doin ok on the length. Almost 0.2 length gains BPEL. Not impressive but at least it’s something! Thanks for the reply

Ok, but stretch before you do any girt work. You don’t want to stretch a penis full of blood. Complete flaccid is preferable when stretching.

And pump or clamp instead of jelk is my advise. But it’s only my personal opinion🙂

One of the purposes of the newbie routine is to get your penis in good shape “condition” to be able to do a more extensive or intense exercise program or to move to advanced techniques.

Clamping is a very advanced routine and has serious risk associated with it. Be very cautious in your decision process considering moving to clamping and if you (or anyone) moves to clamping be very diligent in the process and in monitoring your penis health and PI while doing so.

Yeah absolutely. I realized it wasn’t the right move and stopped after a month or so. Was just saying that’s what I did and seeing if it may have had a certain affect on my present situation. I took a Decon break after, started back slow w wet jelqs and have continued w dry jelqs next. My goal is to move up in intensity of exercise no less than every 3 months. Don’t plan on doing any manual clamping for at least a year into my journey, just hoping to find some gains w a manual routine first

Gotcha. Thanks for the advise. I have a hard time keeping good blow flow when jelqing after stretching, so I’ll just split my workouts up and stretch a few hours after I jelq when possible.

Has anyone else failed to gain In the first 8 or so months, only to go on and eventually achieve gains?