Originally Posted by Hobby
My first thought is perhaps you aren’t dry jelqing correctly. Your hand shouldn’t move in relation to the skin. Are you trying to slide your hand over the skin without lube?
No, this is TOO painful and it is simple to say why. No. I have enough skin to pull it down near the base of the shaft and then jelq until skin gets stretched and grip reaches the head. Grip doesn’t slide over the skin, grip holds at the same point of skin until the end of the stroke. Does that sound wrong ?
Originally Posted by Hobby
Red seems indicative of recent trauma. I think it will go away if you take a few days off and then change your technique. Usually the shaft skin is somewhat pinker/redder after a session. I don’t know how dark red you mean, but if accompanied by spots you are being too rough on the skin.
Well, my shaft is red near the end of the jelqing session and I know it is normal, because after I stop repeating the strokes after a few seconds it gets to usual color. It seems that this happens (as I saw in the exercises videos, and that’s what I mean red, since my skin is totally white) because much blood is trapped over the grip and it shows. Isn’t that how jelqing, Uli, and other manual girth exercises work ? But I say this takes seconds before the slight darkness (which is similar at all places of the shaft) leaves.
What i have now is let’s say 2 (almost 3) times darker than the usual jelq stroke darkness. It didn’t leave after stopping jelqing and it appeared just after many, not countable dots appeared on my shaft in between let’s say 4-5 jelq strokes and I must say the darkness is not the same in all the areas that it appeared. Is this good enough to describe the darkness in the red colour ?
Originally Posted by Hoby
I’d wait until the skin is back to normal color before jelqing again. Your shower warmup should be fine. Make sure the water isn’t overly hot. Maybe that’s the problem? You want the penis warm, not cooked.
That’s the problem. Sure I can wait (even though it is annoying, because I just got out of another 10 day break for being stupid and injuring myself), what bothers me is that I don’t know if this leaves. And if it does, I now feel uncertain about the stress I can put on the shaft so it doesn’t appear again. I used to think when I read on other topics about discoloration that it is something that doesn’t just happen in one day, I supposed that it is something that happens gradually, not in an instant, through repeating a routine that pushes blood to places it cannot escape. This came all of a sudden and my feeling of safety about how easily I can react on my penis (“listening it” as older in PE years people say) reaction to PE… Anyway.
The thing is, even when I didn’t get discolored, I used to feel that the grip was somehow too strong for my skin and felt relieved when I released it after the stroke, but I kept on that for 15 days and nothing had happened. Plus, you cannot jelq without a tight grip, can you ?
Originally Posted by Hobby
Something else I should mention is for whatever reason shaft skin is more sensitive after taking some time off. Maybe you’re seeing that effect here. For example, if I were to do squeezes for a week, on the first day I might get some minor red spots, then no spots on the following days. Then after taking 2 days off I’d get horrible spotting at the next session even though it was lower intensity than before. I don’t understand the mechanism. It seems backwards. I’d think the skin would be tougher after a rest, but nope.
Yes, that’s what I noticed and was curious about too. My thoughts when I saw the red spots I said above, were that it should be stronger now, not getting hurt by even lighter technique than before…
Now, since I am not working with jelqing. I know kegels are fine to do. What about manual stretches? My grip is not pulling the skin or putting some force on it in any way. Is it safe to continue with just warming up (more than before just to help the discoloration fade) stretch 10 minutes and then warm up some more before I stop ?
That’s it for now. Thanks for replying here (perhaps it was a mistake to put this topic to the newbie section) and so analytically. Sorry if any part doesn’t make sense and if so please ask me to clarify.