Over a year in PE and next to no gains. suggestions

Hahaha! I like you man, serious or not- the way you put your words together is funny, man.

Sorry I’m from germany and my english isn’t quiet well - especially at 3am. ;)

‘V’ and ‘A’ stretches, Mem’ stretches (search for ‘Mem’ momentous gain mechanism’ - or something), basically any kind of stretches done using a round object as a fulcrum. Don’t use too much force, though.

If your stretched length is more than it was, your penis is longer; this is obvious. If you can’t see the difference in erect length, than your EQ isn’t high enough and/or you gained some girth that is hindering length gains. Keep working on it and have faith - I know it is hard to hear after 1 year of work, but that’s it.

Take a 1 month break and read this. I think it’s a very plausible theory and you should try it as I see your BPFSL has become greater than your BPEL.

Hey guys, I’ve sniffed around here, made a few posts and most of all done a LOT of reading on this site. I started PE just over a year ago. Below I will list how my routine has progressed, as well as address PI and EQ.

Starting measurements (August 2009): BPEL: 7.625in EG:6.25in bone-pressed flaccid stretched length: 7.5in flaccid BP length:4in

Current measurements (December 2010): BPEL: 7.625 in EG: 6.25in bone-pressed flaccid stretched length: 8in flaccid BP length: 5.75in

Original routine (August 2009): newbie routine from this site

First change (September 2009): newbie routine plus 10 minutes pumping at 3-4 in of vacuum

Second change (Early October 2009): newbie routine plus 2 10 minute pumping sessions at 3-5 in of vacuum

Third change (Late October 2009): newbie routine plus 2 20 minute pumping sessions at 3-5in of vacuum

Fourth change (January 2010): newbie routine plus 2 20 minute pump sessions at 3-5in, with 5 minutes jelqing between sessions

Fifth change (February 2010): the above with 10 minutes of jelqing between sessions.

Sixth change (April 2010): the above, with 5 additional minutes of stretching after pumping

Most recent change (November 2010): added X4 labs extender worn roughly 25-30 hours per week at ~800-900g of traction.

PI’s:

Noticeable flaccid gains. As noted in the above numbers, my bone pressed erect length used to be longer than my stretched flaccid length. Now my stretched flaccid is a good big longer, while my erect length has remained the same. My girth has been largely unchanged, erect or flaccid.

No discoloration or numbness. No pain, no spotting.

My refractory period has always been very short. That hasn’t changed. Here lately, with the girl I’ve been having sex with: I’ve stayed hard even after cumming, provided we just keep having sex. Nothing short of a blessing, I know.

One thing I’ve noticed is that my erection quality was always an indicator for me. When I began a new routine, erections would decrease in hardness for a few days to a week, and then would be back to normal, and gradually get to be very high quality. Then I would change my routine, and the same thing would happen again. The ONE exception is the April change. I experienced weaker erections for about 2-3 weeks, then they came back strong and stayed that way.. Until about September of this year (2010). Erection quality has varied a lot these past few months. I have never lost the ability to become erect, but they are often times not as strong as they have been in the past. This seemed to happen for no reason at all.

I have noticed no changes in PI’s since adding the X4 labs extender a month ago. But have noticed some flaccid gains.

EQs:

1. Ease of erections: I’d say 8 out of 10. I’m never “not able” to get one, but once in awhile (less than twice per month) it takes some convincing.
2. Erections are quite frequent. Sometimes too frequent, waking me at night at times. 9.5 out of 10
3. Hardness of erections: 7 out of 10. I’m not happy with hardness of erections at this point.
4. Lasting erections: they last as long as I need them to. 9 out of 10
5. Refractory period discussed above. 9.5 out of 10
6. Night and morning wood: 9.5 out of 10 erections are at their hardest in the morning.

I should say, I’m doing this for myself. I know I’m above average, and every female I’ve been with has commented that I’m “big”. So it’s not as if I have a complex about it.. But I figure “why not?”. No one every complained about my body, but I started going to the gym when I was 14. This is just something else I picked up almost 10 years later.

Anyhow.. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to improve this routine? I’ve gained literally nothing as far as erect gains are concerned, and I’m a bit surprised. I’ve done this faithfully for over a year now with no measurable erect gains (though I do feel that I’m in better sexual health as a result of PE).

For the record, I’m 24 years old.

Thanks for reading, and hopefully responding.

Your getting morning woods.. I was going to ask that. Usually when I make large gains, I will loose EQ and loose morning woods, also may loose erections.

Taking off PE and doing some light pumping, like 1-10 minute session per day at low in-HG, no jelquing.. After a week of this will get hard morning woods, and flaciids.

When my BPFSL exceeded my BPEL I did get length gains, but had to wait for the EQ to catch up to see it.

In your case, it sounds like you have alot of erection power already, and your sex and morning woods are intact. So I don’t know.

Try to back off to a really light PE regiment like I said for two weeks or so.

Have you tried Cialis or Viagra?

Have you tried Cialis or Viagra?

He’s much too young to be dabbing into those. He’ll be walking around with a 24/7 boner if he takes a half of miligram of Viagra.

BTB, seeing that I missed the part where you said your erections were relatively weak compared to your MW, I’m going to suggest that you simply back off the intensity a bit. I still think you need a break, but maybe when you come back in a month or two, you could try going back to the newbie routine - or maybe even a lighter version of it. Have you read up on the linear routine - NEW newbie + advanced routine. Slow incremental increases to your stretching and jelqing.

It seems that most of the BIG gainers have also had amazing EQ and very rarely did they see drops in it.

Perhaps your goal should be to get your erections as rock hard as possible and slowly increase duration from there - backing down when you see EQ dropping.