Quick gainer theory

What made me big was Priapism, some might consider it dumb luck. It’s pretty amazing how huge it gets when an event happens..
At lest 8.5”nbpl and 7.5” EG. rock hard , funny thing it propped me up like a tent and strong enough to hold my whole body weight pretty much, very lucky it did not break. I had a couple of minor events since but still.

Hello fat_cock, how did you manage to produce the Priapism ?

I’ve had a pair of minor episodes over the years that I think were priapism, though I’ve never had it diagnosed. Only lasted a couple of hours, but the erections were out of the blue (no chemical assistance), abnormally large, and do hard it was literally painful.

Sadly for me, no permanent size increase was commensurate.

The quickest gain is the “lig gains” at least it was on me. You reach that force level and the suspensitory lig pulls away yielding somewhere between 0 and 1” almost overnight. After that it’s the tedious tunica based gains, where you work millimeter by millimeter forward.

There have been a few guys who have expanded their c0cks solely with clamping, with the c0ck growing slowly in girth and length over time.

I have gained 1’5 inches in my first year.

My flexibility is close to zero. If I straighten my legs and try to reach my feet with my fingers, I stay at 20cm. If I push my fingers back they don’t go beyond 45 °.

Hypermobility happens because of genetically weaker collagen causing ligamentous laxity. These folks can sprain their ligaments much easier - ACL in the knee, ATFL in the ankle, etc. So why not the suspensory ligament of the penis?

This doesn’t just apply to ligaments but most connective tissue so could make tunica gains easier as well possibly.

It’s good to hear that you’re making steady gains with no hypermobility symptoms. It means that PE should likely work for anyone who’s willing to put in the time. I actually never doubted this.

My question though is what distinguishes the fast gainers from everyone else? Maybe they happened to stumble onto the prefect routines for their body composition and found the perfect balance of training vs rest. But maybe some of these guys also have collagen that’s stretchier than the rest of us. I mean BIB grew something like five inches in a year or something insane like that. That can’t all be due to good hanging technique.

I don’t know how accurate this is but when I was doing my Ortho rotation in residency (years ago) one of the surgeons said that in his experience redheads tended towards hypermobility. For this reason he seldom offered redheads hamstring grafts for ACL repairs since hamstring grafts tend to be more springy to begin with. So these folks would always get the patellar tendon grafts or cadaver grafts.

By the way the reason why hypermobility is so common is because it can be evolutionarily advantageous since it usually results in fewer deaths related to child birth. The vaginal canal more easily stretches to accommodate the passage of the infant.

Better to use the Brighton score to determine your hypermobility status but might also be interesting to see how many redheads are fast gainers too…

I’d be guessing and would trust the most seasoned veterans of this forum to answer that question over me since formal studies are lacking but my guess is yes. My practice is mainly regenerative medicine (dextrose prolotherapy and platelet rich plasma injections to heal soft tissue injuries) and the analogy I use with my patients is that you need bricks to build a house. For this reason I recommend my patients supplement with collagen and vitamin C since vitamin C is a cofactor required in collagen synthesis. Would seem to make since in PE as well.

Just like when we work out at the gym we’re intentionally causing micro-injuries to our tissues so that they can grow back stronger. I think this is why the veterans emphasize the newbie routine so strongly since it’s a relatively light workout. It’s easy to want to overtrain with PE especially in the beginning when you’re all excited about getting huge and trying every little trick that you read about and buying a million devices. But I think most people undervalue the importance of adequate rest. As bodybuilders say, you grow in the kitchen, not in the gym.

So though I can’t say with certainty that supplementing with collagen will help you, it certainly won’t hurt and may end up givOmg you nicer skin, hair, and nails so why not take it? Just buy some Knox gelatin - no need for the expensive fancy stuff. And ester-c is my recommended form of vitamin C to take for bioavailability reasons.

Supplementing with arginine and ornithine also makes sense. I also have a slew of herbals I take to boost testosterone production.

You make a good point. We MIGHT expect to see some EQ problems with the fast gainers who have hypermobility issues. But also maybe not. Without studies we’d be guessing on this point.

It’s a great question. You definitely couldn’t mimic or reproduce the kind of collagen deformity that folks with Hypermobiliry syndrome or EDS have because their collagen differences are due to their DNA. But from a chemical PE standpoint I think there are possibilities. DMSO is a good candidate - possibly when mixed with iodine. I’ve also read about people using DMSO and PABA.

I have my own centrifuge and am trained in doing the priapus shot so I just started injecting my penis with PRP. The usual limitation with this is cost ($1900 per shot) so people might only try it once or twice and abandon it if the gains are minimal or not at all. I’m going to be injecting myself monthly since that’s usually how often I inject my PRP patients with rotator cuff tears or knee problems etc. PRP makes a lot of a sense to me for PE. If you can provide a steady stream of mesenchymal stem cells and growth factors to the penis while doing PE, it seems likely that you’ll be optimizing your growth potential, but we won’t know until enough people try it out. Time will tell. I’ll keep you all posted :) .

I’d say one inch in a year is above average. Most people I’ve seen on here don’t gain a full inch that quickly.

Another injection I’ve been considering is ozone. It works to increase oxygen utilization of the tissue which improves healing rate. Haven’t tried it yet but will after maybe six months of injecting with PRP. It actually tends to work synergistically with PRP so I might start injecting them one after the other in the same session (ozone first, wait two minutes, then PRP). Ozone is also helpful to reduce fibrosis so may help with people who have scar tissue buildup in the penis after years of PE. Could be a two birds with one stone kind of thing. Maybe. Just speculation at this point.

Side note ozone injections directly into the prostate (injecting through the perineum) can do wonders for BPH if any of you suffer from that.

What dosages of a collagen supplement would you recommend, Doc?

Theoretically, it makes sense. But I’m careful to extrapolate from a very extreme situation, a diseases, to the functioning of a normal individual.

Im not an expert by any means, but without more evidence it could also be not that important of a factor.

I will continue to follow the idea, though :-)

This is fringe theory at best. There is no purpose to this but to make further questions one can never answer. Why not just stick to what works for you, and if it hasn’t, keep trying different things like until you get a breakthrough?

I don’t see why you think it’s an unanswerable question. I provided the criteria for benign hypermobility syndrome. The quick gainers on this forum could see if they meet that criteria. It’s not an airtight study granted, but it’s a starting point and I personally think it’s an interesting and potentially valuable question to answer. Why do some men gain quicker than others? Is it just a matter of technique or is there a genetic basis to it? I realize that we’re dealing with a pretty low n, but let’s say that our top 10 gainers on this forum all did NOT meet the criteria for BHS - then I’d be inclined to think that a collagen mutation likely doesn’t pay a huge role in this. But if half of them meet the criteria, I think that should prompt further investigation.

If it turns out that a collagen mutation likely DOES assist with PE, that shouldn’t discourage people. Clearly PE works for almost anyone who’s willing to put in the time. But figuring out why some men are quick gainers and others are not is an important question to answer.