Starting with well below average girth.

Hey guys, I’m sort of a lurker here, and this is my first post in a long time.

So my problem is, I have a really thin penis. Not just the quarter-inch-below-average kind of thin, but remarkably thin - 3.625 inches around, at both base and mid-shaft.

I tried PE a few years back and made some length gains (.75 inches), which was amazing - I finally had a penis approaching the average penis length (though perhaps not the average on this site). If anything though, I lost a bit of girth, maybe about an eight of an inch. I don’t think I ever over trained, though I suppose it’s possible. I was on the newbie routine for a few months, and then eventually got into clamping - I have such a thin girth that I ended up using the smaller sized cable clamp. Perhaps my length gains came at the expense of some girth. Eventually, I started college, and wasn’t able to PE anymore (roommates, etc), but I’m thinking about getting back into things.

Basically, I was wondering if anyone else out there is working with a starting girth like mine. I’m curious both for moral support, and for any tips for starting with such a thin girth.

I’m familiar with the case of yguy, and it’s inspiring, but he seems to have only started taking pictures late in the process, so it’s hard to see much of his progression from when he was much smaller.

My only goal, really, is to get to something like an average girth. To even crack the 4 inch barrier would be a huge deal.

Current Stats
NBPEL 5.0625
EG 3.625

Best of luck bro

PE is a marathon and not a sprint. Clamp and pump and over time, you will see progress. Just don’t give up on it. I would suggest you work only on girth for awhile but other guys may think differently.

In the end, it’s a matter of how much you want a bigger dick that will make the difference between gaining and not.

How is your sex life?

I wish you all the luck in the world. You have everyones blessing here, that’s for sure. I don’t see why you can’t get to 5 EG but it will take total commitment. BigGitha type commitment. You definitely need to pump too. Get a pump post haste.

+1 to clubbers suggestion.

Spring for a pump like this if you can, Harbor Freight Tools – Quality Tools at Discount Prices Since 1977

It blows cheep sex shop pumps out of the water.

Edit: it may be cheaper to buy that pump and a cylinder separately, because every time I’ve seen that kind of pump sold in a sexual context (ie for pumping vs bleeding breaks) there is a 40% or so mark up.

Good luck my friend.

I actually went to a sex shop when I was 17 and bought a cheap sex shop pump and tried it out in the parking lot. At the time I actually drove 2 hours to get to this place because I was 17 and didn’t know my ass from my elbow. Anyways, I was so exited I tried it in the parking lot and it was the most disappointing and miserable experience that I can only compare to going to a wake or funeral.

If I would of got a good pump back then. It would of saved me a lot of heart ache and possibly would of prevented an opiate addiction that I will be plagued with the rest of my life.

A good pump means everything.

I would also recommend trying a sensible pumping routine. You won’t make permanent gains right away, but you’ll probably at least be seeing substantial temporary girth increases within several week of regular pumping. Don’t forget to jelq, either.

Congrats on your length gains. And good of you for “coming out” with a smaller girth. :up: For every guy who starts PE with a big 5.8” girth, there is probably one starting with a small 3.6” girth. You are far from alone here — the guys with smaller cocks simply don’t seem to participate as vocally. Posts like yours should help to bring guys out of the woodwork.

Thanks for the advice and encouragement guys. Have those of you who recommended pumping seen ever tried stopping the pumping to check the permanence of gains? Info on permanent gains from pumping is such a grey area on the internet, and so controversial even on PE forums that I’d always dismissed it

Bluray, my sex life isn’t actually so bad. It’s not fantastic, not yet anyway, but I’m not a sexual hermit like some of the smaller guys you sometimes read about (ahem, Measurection). I’ve had some one night stands, and one extended casual sexual relationship (not a relationship in the dating sense, it was purely casual sex). Furthermore, most of the one night stands showed interested in continuing to see me, I just didn’t see any romantic potential. I did think they were pretty attractive, though..

All this, even while the snugger sized condoms are a tad loose.

I was really down on my penis for a long time, but at some point I just got over it, and jumped into sex. Somehow, I finally internalized that any woman who didn’t like me for my dick wasn’t worth knowing anyway. It’s one thing to say it, and another to believe it. Maybe people in my extended social network will gossip, and I’m sure a few have, but it doesn’t really bother me. I’m pretty sure any discussion of my penis is overshadowed by my (hopefully) more positive traits. Also, I’m not sure I really give a shit about girls who care very much about penis size.

It probably helps that I was so obsessed with my size (and lonely) for so many years - I spent a lot of late nights researching female anatomy and the mechanics of sex on the internet. Sure, it’s probably not as romantic as learning through experience, but I’ve never had a sexual partner complain, and they all seemed to enjoy themselves. I once heard through friends (who are unaware of my size) that a one night stand had called me “the best sex she ever had.”

Maybe I don’t have the best equipment, but I try to be a good lover, and to legitimately care more about the girl’s pleasure than my own. I have a bag of tricks for maximizing the experience, so I’m not poking around in the dark here, I know what I’m doing.

I try to believe in mind over matter on this particular issue, and to project confidence. I think there’s some question by a lot of men my size as to “well, should I be upfront about this? Or Should I somehow try and tell her beforehand? Or Maybe I should just spare her the trouble,” and I think that’s all ridiculous. You have nothing to apologize for. It’s not an issue unless you make it an issue. I haven’t, and no partner ever has.

But, maybe I’ve just been lucky, or good at picking girls with slender vaginas, or who don’t seem like they’d care so much. I also live in a pretty sex positive city, which probably helps - I imagine it might be tough if I’d gone to school in a traditional college town, and tried to hook up with a bunch of ignorant sorority girls.

Ha, uh, sorry for rambling, clearly I’ve invested a lot of thought in the subject. I could probably write a thesis. At times it sucks, but I think my penis size has given me empathy and perspective, and made me who I am, for better or worse. Sexually, my encouraging experiences greatly outweigh my disappoints, and perhaps I’ll relay them at some point if anyone’s ever interested.

I still lapse back into periods of insecurity, and it would be nice to have more to work with, from a purely mechanical standpoint. I try to not let it enter my head, but sometimes I’m afraid I don’t pursue romantic and sexual encounters as much as I could because of still-ingrained insecurity.

What is the average girth anyway?

Average is a little bit under 5”, as far as I know.

Billy, you don’t have to worry very much. Being a good lover is more important than having a big cock. Of course, we all want both. But if you could only choose one, of course that would be being a good lover. I know about all that stuff that girth is more important than length, and while it’s probably true, it shouldn’t keep you from having sex (and I mean good sex, for both you and the girl) just because your size is not average (yet).

Anyway, I really don’t know about the pump, I don’t have one so I can’t tell from a personal experience. But you should, even if you have a pump, do jelqs and squeeze jelqs. I believe these work. Maybe you should do a little stretching before, just to get your penis into that ‘jelly state’. Do not forget kegeling.
I’ve read about edging and ballooning, and these also seem to help a lot..

Just for the record, I’ve been peing for just 1 month. Didn’t notice any measurement gains yet, but my penis has more blood flow and is more veinier, and I think it’s because of the jelqing and the kegels. Having a better blood flow and a veiner dick is a good sign, I think. Having a good blood flow is very important if you want to gain girth, I believe, because the blood expands the tissues. More blood flow = more pressure = more expansion.

hey billy, dude you are such an inspiration to us small guys out there. I’m about 4.5x4 (barely or not even 4 in girth) and have always had difficutly with getting it up to jelq due to insecurities. I hope I can get the same mind set as you and just not care…at all about size. Its definitely tuff trying to do this when you go to thunders everyday and you are reminded that size matters :(

I really do hope you gain some more and I hope you stick around.
I know some other small guys here, but definitely not much in comparison to the big/average guys.

PM me if you want.
peace.

BillyIdol,
I’m SO glad you made this thread. Up until now, I haven’t met anybody that was so close to my own personal situation regarding penis size, the emotional baggage that comes along with it, and the optimistic outlook I have gained because of it. I searched around Measurection hoping to find someone else in the same boat as you and I, but it seems that the bulk of those people are just having issues thinking that their very close to average penis size isn’t enough. Anyways, much like you, I just want to get my girth closer to average for my own peace of mind, and so i could have more “tools” to work with. I’ve accepted the fact that i have a shorter penis, but its the girth that has really hindered me from fully endeavoring in my sex life. You seem to be a step ahead of me in terms of acceptance, and i think talking with you would definitely help me out a lot in that regard, that is, if you’re willing. I too am basically restarting PE because of privacy issues before, so if your down, ill gladly be your training partner haha.

Hit me with a PM, or reply here and let me know what’s up. The same goes for you, iwish6 :)

pz