Thoughts on PE from an Old Timer

Hi everybody, I’ve probably been working on PE longer than most. I started with a pump back in the pre-enlightenment period of PE, 1993. Made lots of false starts with freakin’ pills, rip-off devices, and less than clear instructions for exercises. I was lucky, to the best of my knowledge I’ve haven’t done any lasting damage to myself.

Why have I stuck with it for so long?

Well boys it all started after my wife said the 4 words that no man wants to hear, “Is it in yet? According to the Kama Sutra my wife is a Mare and I was a Rabbit. I’m a problem solver so when PE information started showing up on the Internet I jumped on it.

I persevered over the years and learned how to pump properly (to avoid doughnuts, little ruptured blood vessels, etc.) A number of years of pumping combined with various supplements resulted in very nice but non-permanent gains. Then I came across the infamous Max-Xtender. My circumcised head is a compatible shape for the noose technique and after paying my dues trying to figure out how to stretch without agony my transient gains became permanent.

Ho Boy is my wife happy and the difference for me is like night and day. I haven’t taken the time to figure out all your abbreviations but in simple terms I’ve gone from a very average 5-1/2” erect and non-remarkable girth to not quite 8” and my sweetie can’t get her fingers all the way around.

PE WORKS!!

Men come in so many size, shapes and configurations that no single technique, supplement or device will work for all of us. The trick is to keep trying till you find what works for you.

Your state of health, general fitness, hormonal levels, nutritional state, vascular health etc determine much of your potential for growth and those factors CHANGE over time. If something stops producing gains try something else, take a break, mix up your routine but don’t quit.

If you pay attention to your body you’ll reduce the chances of traumatizing your unit. In my experience no burn no gain but if it HURTS, stop doing it. For me the full growth has taken years. I think my rapid permanent growth with the Max-Xtender was a direct result of all the pumping over the years. I think my tissue was ready to take that temporary increase and convert it to permanent gain.

Couple of side notes. I’m 55 and my cock gets harder now and looks more fit than it ever has. I’ve been married 25 yrs and we’re having more fun than ever and to a very large extent, because of the gains. Here’s a news flash guys, contrary to what we’re told, some women actually have major erotic triggers way back in their hoohaws. If you can’t ring those bells she’s not having all the fun she can. Seems to be huge variation among women and what makes it even more fun; there’s a lot of variation depending on where she is in her cycle. Sometimes I’m a bit big for my wife, most of the times she seriously wants more than I’ve got.

If you’ve followed along this far I’ll tell you I’d never recommend the Max-Xtender to anyone. That nylon noose hurt like a mutha’. I can’t make the silicon tubing work at all. I solved the nylon pain issue by using moleskin. Got to be careful how you put the moleskin on and change it when it starts to stiffen up but it makes it bearable for an hour or so. I’ve been making steady progress for about a year but now I’ve hit a plateau. I can tell I’ve got at least one more significant gain possible. After doing my research I’m going to throw my lot in with Mr. Monkeybar’s VacExtender2 and see if I can push through and get on the other side of 8.

By the way, I can’t tell you what my current maximum size is. I only get up to full size when I’m in a nice warm place, tough to measure at that point. LOL

Does PE work? The proof already exists. Take a look at the size of the guys in 70s and 80s porn then look at the guys who are starring these days. I’d be willing to bet anything that today’s male porn stars didn’t come by their size “naturally.”

Based on my experience I really think PE can bring a lot of joy to the world. If you can make your penis a good fit for your sweetie, oh boy are you going to have a good time.

Hope my little tale helps some of you keep on keeping on. Last but not least to you guys just starting. You’ll never know how lucky you are to have a resource like this to help and inspire you, you’ll just have to take my word on it.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

Great story and thanks for sharing it. It’s really interesting! I can’t say I’ve used PE a lot, sometimes I do it for maybe 2 weeks and under those two weeks I’m sloppy so I’ve not seen any higher gains yet for me (obviously). It does get larger after exercising which I guess is a good sign ;) . I came back a few days ago and a moderator gave me that newbie routine guide, just did it, feels good so far. I’m curious about that Max-Xtender so I will look it up but the sound of it I shouldn’t buy it for a while :) .

Thanks once again for your story, hopefully my story will turn out as good :) .

And oh, my fingers hurt after gripping my penis 200 times :P

Congratulations Badbill. Here’s another older guy having fun with the methods mentioned on this board. My wife thinks I’m nuts but hey, it’s a man thing. Behind all her scoffing, I know she enjoys a bigger unit. What’s your girth man and to what do you attribute that?

Thank you for your story. I have 2 questions.

According to you, why pumping gains are non-permanent?

And, how long did your gains last after a pumping session?

Great story.

Very inspiring Badbill! How long before your wife noticed and how did that go down?

Welcome to the posting side ‘69. Interesting post.

Good story guy.

Thanks for the story man. It is informing, inspiring and helpful to another guy who is just wanting to make the next ten years with wife better in bed than the first 10.

Thanks for the story Badbil. Hope you cross into the 8”s.

Great story man, and I’m glad your life is working out for you so well. =)

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Great story from a vet. Cheers.

Words of wisdom. :)

Great story. Amazing gains, primarily from wearing an extender! That’s good to know.

Wasn’t sure how my story would be greeted but I was hoping it would be useful.

Lots of questions from all of you both public and private. I’ll try and answer them here. A couple of you have asked me to help you with your program and I am flattered. I must tell you that I truly believe you have much better sources of information and resources right here. Certainly for the first 6 to 7 years I was working with lots of conflicting, often misleading and inaccurate information. No need for any of you to recreate that experience. If I’m a source of inspiration, I’m honored. But as somebody to help you set up a program;not so good other than with general suggestions. Look to the information on this board, that’s what I’m doing.

I was ready to give up on permanent gains until I came on the Max. Only one reason I tried that particular device, it is CHEAP. I’ll repeat again.. If I were doing it over again I would NOT buy it. Too much chance for injury, particularly with the old nylon noose. In my opinion you can injury major blood vessels and nerves. Like I said, my YEARS of pumping prepped my penis for being stretched and I’m thinking it helped me deal with my early sessions with the “noose of pain.” I like the idea behind Mr. MonkeyBar’s device. Will it work for me? Only time will tell., but I’ll let you know.

Funny thing about wives. They’ve been sold the same BS we’ve been sold. “It’s ok honey I love you just the way you are. Size doesn’t matter, It’s how you use it.” I heard that for years. My sweetheart doesn’t like to talk about my pre-PE penis, she says she’d rather focus on the present. Go figure.

I think some of our sweeties’ fear we’ll damage ourselves and looking back on what my penis looked like after some of my early pumping sessions I can understand that concern. Some is time and money spent, some is just plain fear of change.

As to my girth, these days I’m looking at 6” to 6”1/2 on the shaft depending on several factors. I’m lucky that the base gets over 7” so lots of fun stuff gets stimulated making my sweetie go nuts. I think the years of pumping have caused the increase in girth. Hopefully there are more efficient ways to achieve the same outcome.

I think it’s mostly because of the fluid factor. Pumping pulls lots of fluid into your penis, some of that gets into the spaces between your cells. Kinda like what happens when you smack your thumb with a hammer and it swells up. Good thing that swelling goes back down, right? Over lots of sessions I think you do have an effect on the tissue involved but for me it took stretching to convert that to something permanent.

I never really paid attention to how long the gains lasted, all that mattered for awhile was that they weren’t permanent. I must admit that I was pretty annoyed with the CTC Company’s advertising cause I spent good money on the XL-1000 and it sure didn’t do for me what Chris claims it does. For many years I gave up on permanent gains and just used it for 20 minutes or so before going to bed and called it good.

I think I pretty much covered that answering ThinkTank’s question. Considering some of the swollen, deformed monstrosities I created in my early days of pumping she picked up on it pretty quickly LOL. Even after I got that under control there was some serious resistance. Remember women in this culture have been force fed a serious crock of BS about their sexuality and their sexual response. My wife and I talked about the early days recently. Turns out she felt guilty and petty about enjoying a bigger penis. Now that’s messed up.

Everybody has a different situation and that’s part of why it’s great to have a place like this to come and exchange experiences. One thing I’m sure of; anybody, anywhere, who tries to tell you that ANYTHING concerning human sexuality is always a certain way doesn’t know enough to be opening his or her mouth about the subject.

Last but certainly not least.

Only in my case and because of my, hopefully, pretty unique experience. I can’t stress it enough, I don’t think the old Max would have done what it did without the years of pre-pumping.

Some take home thoughts:

As with many things in life, be careful what you wish for. If you get beyond 7”, I think you will eliminate a certain percentage of the female population. I had a longtime girlfriend years ago who was grateful I was small. Her last boyfriend was big, 7-1/2”, and even though she said he was a thoughtful and considerate lover, he was just too big for her and she didn’t have fun and that’s why she broke up with him.

As you get bigger you’ve got to change some of your foreplay. Sometimes my dear one gets a little freaky and just wants it hard and fast right of the bat. That only happens when she’s already gotten herself all hot, wet, and ready. Most times if I tried that I’d hurt her, so I take my time and get the motor purring right before a slow, loving insertion. Sure isn’t something I had to worry about with my pre-PE penis LOL.

For me and purely from my perspective, sex with a big dick beats sex with an average one “hands-freakin’-down.” I’m a grower not a shower so the only one who knows what I’ve got is my wife so it’s not a self-esteem thing, just how the parts interact with each other.

Last for now. If you’re not taking care of the rest of yourself don’t even waste your time with PE. I live in the middle of nowhere. I chop my own wood, walk miles a day, eat healthy food we grow and slaughter ourselves. If you’re sitting on your butt all day, eating junk, drinking soda pop and beer, and smoking the cigs then in my opinion you’re not going to get much out of PE. Get active, get your body and mind right THEN get that unit upsized. If you love sex and you love making your honey happy it’s worth whatever you need to do to get there. For some of you it may take a lot of work but if you’ve got the right partner it is SO WORTH IT.

Thanks for warm welcome and letting me share my experiences and thoughts with you.