What is the ideal penis size that most women prefer?

I tried asking girls online what penis size they would prefer their ideal boyfriend had, but got very few honest responses. It looks like girls are terrible at imagining what for example a 17cm penis looks like. They also usually have no idea how big their previous sexual partners were in terms of centimeters, all they think in their head is - below average, average, above average. So it occurred to me that it makes much more sense to ask guys who slept with a lot of women what penis size is ideal. Everybody on this forum knows their exact size and also what the reactions were during sex so please, can you help me with this question of ideal size? Everybody seems to want a bigger dick but I am much more careful because I am already above average (16.7 cm or 6.6 inches) and don’t want to overdo it. I want the girls that I’m having sex with to enjoy it and not be in pain because I am poking their cervix with a monster dick. How much more would you increase your size if you were in my place?

Did you search for this using the search function? This question has been asked an answered numerous times.

I did and now I’m not sure if 7” or 7.5” BP length is ideal. Guess I’ll aim for 7.25”. And about girth, 5.75” to 6” seems to be ideal.

I myself have been on the quest of determining what the "ideal size" is, but after some time you realize that there is no such thing. Most women tend to think way less about penis size than men. They simply want to have a good time.

That is an interesting approach. You are right that I know my exact size and I know what the reactions were, but I have never owned a substantially different penis, so I cannot compare their reactions relative to a different size. Everytime the subject was brought up with any of my long-term partners, they always refered to it as perfect or ideal. So that is your data point from my side. My length is between 7 and 7.5 inches (~18-19cm) bone pressed and 6.5 to 7 inches non-bone pressed (~16.5-17.5cm) depending on how I measure. My girth is around 5.3 (~13.5cm) mid-shaft and 5.8 (~14.75cm) at the base. This doesn’t mean that this is THE ideal size, it means that it was probably more than sufficient for the sexual partners that I encountered.

That being said, I am fairly confident that they would have reacted the same way if it was slightly smaller or bigger. Thus, it is more productive to think about "optimal range" rather than "ideal size". The reason for that is that basically you want to reach the right spots. After a certain size (somewhere around average for most women) the difference becomes how you reach these spots. Different sizes will provide different experiences, but this doesn’t mean that one is better than the other. You could practically be an ideal lover with an avarage-sized penis.

In terms of reactions during sex, they have varied with different partners and in different situations. With my length I have bottomed out most of my partners in deeper positions (e.g. legs on shoulders), but haven’t noticed any substantial problems in more shallow positions. Thus, if I had a longer penis, I would have avoided these deeper positions and this wouldn’t make me a better or a worse lover. In terms of circumference, they pretty much always make the O face upon insertion. Once they are worked up, there has never been an issue and they can easily take all of the girth. It starts to become a "problem" after longer sessions of rough sex.

In order to make a girl orgasm from penetration, I have to pick the right angle, usually applying pressure on the anterior wall of her vagina (assuming she is vaginally orgasmic). When I do that, the question of girth becomes almost irrelevant. If I aimlessly bang in and out, I would rarely make my girlfriend cum. If I packed some extra girth, it would probably happen a bit more often, but that is still irrelevant. Why? Because when I want to make her orgasm I change the angle and achieve the result in ~10 seconds. With extra girth she would get sore more quickly and probably wouldn’t be able to cum as many times. Right now I can easily make her orgasm more than 10 times within a regular 20 minutes session and this is only a matter of angle. And even with extra girth I would still be more efficient by applying pressure on the right spots.

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This is assuming that I had a healthy mind and could think rationally. The reason why I am here is because I, like many others on the forum, suffer from Penile dysmorphic disorder. Add in some anxiety to the mixture and you have an insecure individual who tries to fix something that isn’t broken.

Your size is a valid answer to the question in your title. As you said, it is above average and I can assure you it is opitmal for most women. You can hit all the right spots with your member.

"Most" women is a very key word here. Just like with penises, vaginas come in different sizes. Every once in a while you could encounter a woman that craves a huge cock and that’s okay. For every such woman you would usually have a tiny petite girl that cannot handle anything above average. That being said, the vast majority of women are average and you could offer an optimal experience for them. Adding some size wouldn’t make a difference in terms of your ability to deliver pleasure.

Let me tell you what does make a HUGE difference though: erection quality. My erections are pretty much always good. But every once in a while they are outstanding and I could see the reaction in my girlfriends eyes. So my advice would be to focus on your health and improving your erections even further (research kegels).

And if you want further reassurence that you don’t need extra size, you can check what the research shows. A study from 2015 indicates that women prefer size that is above average, but not big: 16cm length and 12.2cm circumference (Women’s Preferences for Penis Size: A New Research Method Using Selection among 3D Models | PLOS ONE). You seem to already be a tiny bit above the "ideal" according to the study. And it is based on women being shown actual 3D models and not on asking questions about dimensions.

Wow, a lot of great advice in your comment. I’ve been doing some reasearch yesterday about the ideal size and came to the same conclusion as you. That is there is no one ideal size, rather it’s a range. And it seems to be from 6” (15 cm) to 7” (18 cm). Once you go above 7”, the number of girls that are not able to handle you goes up dramatically.

I’ve initially wanted to aim for 8” (20 cm) because it is way above average and would impress most girls plus it’s a nice round number, but the more I searched the internet, the more I read about how girls weren’t able to take an 8-inch penis and the guy had to make foreplay super long and be extra careful during sex. The same stories kept popping up over and over again and I realized that 8 inches can’t be the ideal size, it is too much. Then I searched for “ideal penis size” threads on a couple different PE forums and the size that received the most votes was overwhelmingly 7.5 inches (19 cm). But then I had to take into account that the guys voting were on a PE forum, where everybody always goes for more than is actually ideal, so I deducted 1 inch and finally reached 6.5 inches (16.5 cm). Half an inch more or less probably wouldn’t make much difference and voila, 6-7 inches (15-18 cm) is the ideal range of penis sizes. I define ideal as what most women would prefer. I didn’t focus on girth size that much, but my guess would be 4.75-5.75 inches (12-14.6 cm).

Now that I know all this, I no longer want to aim for 8 inches (20 cm), but rather for 7 inches (18 cm) which is right at the upper edge of my assumed ideal range of sizes. I know that I wouldn’t have to increase my size at all, because I’m currently 6.6 inches (16.7 cm) but since I already spent all this time learning about PE and ideal penis sizes, why not put the knowledge to use and have some fun adding 1.3 cm to my penis. If I succeed, it will definitely be a confidence boost for me.

I plan on focusing on erection quality as well, I’m well aware that it’s actually more important than size. Thank you for your comprehensive comment, I really appreciate it :)

I think there is a big turn on for most girls to se, take on and suck a bigger dick. Not just long but girty as well. 18x15 BPEL is probably perfect size for most women if you se to the total package.

My opinion of the perfect dick that will give me the most out of sex is 8x6 BPEL OR 7,5X6 NBPEL and with great EQ of course. I do PE for myself and not for my girlfriend.

My wife thinks my 7x5 is very good, but what does she know? We all know optimum size is if she’s begging you to slow down, take it easy, or stop because she can take it anymore you big dick bastard!

Rechner, What angle are you talking about, where you can give 10 orgasm’s in 20 minutes? I am curious to try this!

Any angle that puts maximum pressure on the anterior wall of the vagina. For me it’s easiest to achieve in the missionary. Some people use a pillow behind her butt in order to amplify the effect.

That being said, the ability to have multiple orgasms has a lot to do with my girlfriends’ anatomy. I have done pretty much the same in the past and other women haven’t responded in the same way.

Is the anterior wall the g-spot?

They prefer a hard cock. Doesn’t matter size they say. Cock size really matters in the locker room if you want to brag about.

I could not agree more.

Gentlemen,

It’s great to work on being more for tomorrow, but don’t let what may or may not ever be get in the way of being great today!

Rock their world with what you got, it’s more than enough if you just believe in yourself!

Anterior = front. Posterior = back. It would be a G-spot. Women have different pleasure points. My experience is that it’s the shriveled-texture part you feel when you push in a finger and then hook it back towards you.

8x6

Hahahahhahahaha Rechner :-D. I consider myself a rational-thinking individual and not mentally unstable.
Of course, we all have our weaknesses, but IMO it only becomes problematic if you exaggerate it to an absolute obsession with the topic and feel worthless if your penis is "not big enough".
As long as you don’t risk getting erectile dysfunction with wreckless behaviour, I wouldn’t make PE a case of insecurity or problematic mental stability.
I also disagree with the "range" slightly.
If you write in half centimeter steps every possible length and see how women will behave, there will be a length with the most votes.

e.g.
16cm: 10% feel the best when they have sex with a man
16.5: 12%
..
18: 20%
18.5: 16%

You get my point. There will be a measurement when your size has the biggest percentage of women liking it. It is the same with body height.
Some women will like more, some less. But if you want to have the highest likelihood of being perfect, one number will be this.
7.5 inches BPEL might very well be the best size IMO.
Very very big, calcSD - Penis Size Percentile Calculator says top 0.73% for western guys, but not impossible to handle for most women.
The visual part is HUGE as Patrick pointed out. The blowjob does not feel better for her, but it looks so sexy and seducing that it is a turn on.