Applying Bib's LOT theory to DLD Blasters

bud_do suggested a 2’ length of 2” PVC pipe that should also have flexibility and no corners.

This wood of yours DLD, did you do anything to make the path for the penis smoother? Is that .25” square?

Hmmm, ok I’m just trying clarify things here.

If the reverse kegel isolates your lig stretching, would reverse kegeling be completely useless for tunica stretching? Even if you were to stretch in upper angles(over 9o’clock) and reverse kegel, are you still taking the stress off your tunica?

If you were to do a regular kegel during higher angle stretching, would that benefit tunica stretching?

Just some random questions that came up while reading this.

10” long, 2,5” wide, 1/4” thick. It is one of Jen’s foot files so it already has rounded edges.

yguy,

To me it seems that a reverse kegel allows more of the tunica to be exposed. This should mean that you would be able to stretch ligs at a higher angle but why not just stretch at a lower angle if you want to attack the ligs. It also seems to have the effect of increasing the ability to stress the tunica.

What I’m not quite sure about is the effect that hobby is describing. I see no similar effect.

I think regular kegelling helps a lot of people who can’t relax the PC effectively and produces a good stress on the tunica. This is the basis of the blaster, stress out the PC until relaxation is forced.

But you’ve been at this longer than me what do you think?

dld,

thanks for the clarification.

Some great thoughts Y-Guy. I really hope we determine alot with this thread.

>Some great thoughts Y-Guy. I really hope we determine alot with this thread.

So lets have some of your opinions DLD.

Do we want the tunica to be exposed for tunica stretching? Seems it would just take more stress off the tunica.

My understanding so far of this discussion is as follows:

Stretching above your LOT will allow you to stretch the tunica rather than the ligs. Kegelling followed by RKs will allow you to isolate the tunica and be more effective than simply stretching.

The area of confusion is stretching below your LOT to isolate the ligs. The question to be answered is:

If you cannot feel any tug while kegeling is there any point in doing either the kegel or the RK at all? Why not simply stretch?

hobby,

>Now, the odd thing is I can feel RK’s working (actually more on the relaxation after the RK) hanging OTS and BTC, but they don’t do a damn thing SO.<

Odd. When you RK, is the stress felt in the same or a different area with the two angles?

mementus humerous,

> When I’m stretching with an inverted v putting a serious amount for stress on I can still pull back with a kegel.<

There is a difference between actually feeling a tug back and a tug back actually happening. What is your situation? Does it actually tug back?

If so, you may be pulling with less force with your hands than your PC is exerting, which is ovbiously no good. Perhaps you instintively reduce the force from your hands? Check on your next stretching session, this is interesting.

> What kind of weight do you think gets over this?<

God knows. I can barely lift a towel when draped over an erection. A hell of a lot less than your arms can exert.

> If you are hanging at this weight then what is the advantage of doing a blaster if the PC can’t resist the weight anyway.<

The advantage of a blaster is in the reverse kegel at low angles - I firmly believe that it is not the relaxation of the PC that is beneficial, but rather its antagonist that is activated when you RK. I cant Kegel and RK at the same time. An RK works in the direction of the stress - it does not need to resist it.

>That makes best sense to me on a purely theorectical base but up until very recently I’ve tried to avoid downward lig stressing angles (and definately avoid side to side) and focused on inverted v’s and yet I still have a LOT of 6, go figure.<

You must have had naturally long ligs. I think I did too.

> I’d love to go back in time and measure my LOT.<

If I went back in time I would be more worried about memorising the lottery numbers, but ditto, I would check LOT too probably.

YGuy,

>If the reverse kegel isolates your lig stretching, would reverse kegeling be completely useless for tunica stretching?<

In terms of placing more stress on the tunica, I think so.

> Even if you were to stretch in upper angles(over 9o’clock) and reverse kegel, are you still taking the stress off your tunica?<

It might take some stress off depending on the length of your ligs. I would guess the longer your ligs, the more chance of stress being transferred to the ligs from the tunica.

>If you were to do a regular kegel during higher angle stretching, would that benefit tunica stretching?<

Only if the ligs were taking some stress to begin with.

>Do we want the tunica to be exposed for tunica stretching? Seems it would just take more stress off the tunica.<

Right on.

One thing I’ve never understood is why is the pc pullback or kegeling during stretching viewed as something to avoid? It would seem that if you are pulling on the tunica from one end, and your pc pulls from the other, tunica stretch would be maximized. If the pc is so relaxed it’s not pulling back, as in a regular kegel, isn’t it just more susceptible to stretching from the force of your pull and actually taking stress OFF the tunica?

When I kegel when tunica stretching upwards, I feel more stress in my tunica than when my pc is relaxed…

yguy,

>Do we want the tunica to be exposed for tunica stretching? Seems it would just take more stress off the tunica.
I think thats a good question. The exposure is more of a side effect I think when it comes to tunica stretching, the effect that we are looking for it so put stress on the tunica not on anything else (I think jelktoid descirbed this as a tug of war with the PC muscle).

We base a lot of what we do here on our experience with our own penises and what we find effective. Sometimes something comes along and jolts our perception of exactly whats going on (or clarifies it) but we are still working in the dark because we only have a single test subject. So wha goes on with you’re penis. Your gains have been really damn impressive can you fit what you have done into this at all?

fortex99,

>Stretching above your LOT will allow you to stretch the tunica rather than the ligs.
I think its probably a curve going between tunica ang lig stretching, not a cut off point but what you say makes sense to me.

>Kegelling followed by RKs will allow you to isolate the tunica and be more effective than simply stretching.
Sometimes going into a stretch I will find a kegel willl help the stress feel more effective. Mostly if I pull slowly into a stretch its uneccessary. I think relaxing of the pc muscle helps.

> If you cannot feel any tug while kegeling is there any point in doing either the kegel or the RK at all? Why not simply stretch?

I believe you are right. If the kegel doesn’t cause any pull back there is no point because the ligs are taking the strain.

RB

>When I kegel when tunica stretching upwards, I feel more stress in my tunica than when my pc is relaxed…<

This hits on what memento said. If the PC cannot pull harder than your arms, then it wont tugback and place stress on the tunica, so why is the stress increased? I notice this too with hanging, and this is the point I have tried to make from the start:

At BTC and low angles (high LOT) the RK gives the most benefit.
At high angles (low LOT) the kegel gives the most benefit.

SS4

I like to kegal while stretching mainly to keep the PC

built up - I get better erections that stay longer after

a good kegal workout.

However, during the stretch I kegal out in steps; I push

out (RK) and pull a little harder, then push and pull a little

more for a count of 5. This way I seem to feel the stretch

more.

mem

>I believe you are right. If the kegel doesn’t cause any pull back there is no point because the ligs are taking the strain.<

Nooooooo! At low angles where the ligs are taking the stress there is no point in kegeling, that would take stress AWAY from the ligs in any case.

At HIGHER angles, what you are saying is true, why kegel if the stress is too high to cause tugback? But it DOES increase the stress.

I would suggest the hangers set up an OTS hang, and gradually increase the weight while kegeling at each increment until there is no visible tugback (whether you feel one or not), to determine how strong your PC is. Purely out of interest.

SS4

PS Damn look at the times on these posts, is this a forum or a chat?

SSfaw,

>There is a difference between actually feeling a tug back and a tug back actually happening. What is your situation? Does it actually tug back?

Good point and yes I definately feel an increase in stress and a miniscule tug back at the base though my pulling hand does not move.

> The advantage of a blaster is in the reverse kegel at low angles - I firmly believe that it is not the relaxation of the PC that is beneficial, but rather its antagonist that is activated when you RK. I cant Kegel and RK at the same time. An RK works in the direction of the stress - it does not need to resist it.<
What do you think are the antagonistic muscles involved, any above the penis? To me it makes perfect sense that the reverse kegel can help relaxation but I’ve not made any connection to antagonistic flexing.

RB/SS4,

>One thing I’ve never understood is why is the pc pullback or kegeling during stretching viewed as something to avoid?<

>If the PC cannot pull harder than your arms, then it wont tugback and place stress on the tunica, so why is the stress increased?<

I’ve learned a lot since I’ve been here but there are areas that are fuzzy. To me its like if your pc muscle is involved you are redcucing stress because you are not pulling against a stable base.

SS4 (again phew you are quick),

>At BTC and low angles (high LOT) the RK gives the most benefit.
At high angles (low LOT) the kegel gives the most benefit.<

huh?