Applying Bib's LOT theory to DLD Blasters

I think that understanding the LOT theory and how it applies to Blasters is important to maximizing the stretching portion of ones workout. I have some of my own ideas and I would love to hear other peoples as well. I get asked a lot lately about if Blasters are something that is important to do depending on any given LOT. I try to think of things in the simplest terms. In this case I see the LOT theory being a road map to tug-back and loss of tug-back on PC flex data. If I give advice to men on this issue I simply suggest setting up the “A-Stretch” or it’s equivalent and experiment with angles until the tug-back is felt in the stretch. If you are able to adjust the A-Stretch to a position that gives you good tug-back then you will maximize the stretch routine. I know for myself I have many different angles that I “A-Stretch” in and considering all the angles I use some do produce much more tug-back than others. Since the LOT theory came about I try to stay with stretch positions that optimize this theory. I think all men can greatly benefit from the Blasters if the proper angle is found that produces the most tug-back.

Any other thoughts are welcome.

Well I guess if you are simply working ligs then techniques like the blaster, JAI and inverted v are pretty useless. Its only once you work the tunica that you need a method to avoid the effect of pulling against an unrelaxed PC muscle and this is where if you can’t relax your PC muscle fully (most people can’t) a method of avoiding its effects, like the JAI, or working it to the point it submits to relaxation, like the blaster, comes into its own.

I don’t think that means high LOT people should avoid the blaster or stressing the tunica in other ways just that they should be aware of what they are doing and why. Like you say.

Personaly I find the blaster not terribly efficcient but then I practice yoga and am able to relax muscles pretty well.

mem,

If I understand what bib said correctly, on the reverse kegel the tunica is pushed out slightly, so at low angles this places more stress on the ligs. In other words, blasters are the most effective at low angles when working ligs.

When stretching up for tunica work, a normal kegel will pull the tunica in, hence the tugback, which will take stress away from the ligs, assuming the ligs were taking any stress to begin with.

SS4

If you are stretching at an angle where kegeling has no effect I don’t see the point in doing a blaster, seems like wasted work.

If you’re intention is to stretch ligs only you might as well find an angle that is below your LOT angle.

I’ve always stretched upward because I was worried about effects on erection angle and if this is the path a person is following where they are stretching ligs and tunica then following a methods that makes this the most effective it can be seems sensible. Then you are into the land of JAI’s and blasters or simply vstrtches if you can relax the PC fully.

I’ve been fortunate to be able to pretty much fully relax my pc when I stretch, so I have learned that blasters don’t add much to equation for me. I tried for months to get them to give up some additional stretch, even rk’d so hard I thought I was gonna give birth :) , to no avail, the extra stretch just wasn’t there. It was only after much frustration I came to the realization that my pc was already fully relaxed, so there just wasn’t anywhere else I could go to get more stretch.

Don’t get me wrong, I think DLD hit the ball out of the park when he came up with these things, provided you are not able to fully relax your pc. I just happen to be very in tune with my body. If you’re not, by all means, blast away.. :)

I have some input on this. I haven’t been doing any length work for a little over two months, but all these ideas bouncing around in the last few weeks made me want to experiment some.

I have a low LOT (< 7 o’clock), so I experimented with stretches between 9 o’clock and 12 o’clock using A-Stretch DLD Blasters. I initially felt some lig soreness (probably from not cementing in my previous lig stretches well enough), but within a few days of stretching started to feel intense tunica soreness in specifically the 10 o’clock position. I’m talking even more soreness than when I first started PE. The soreness drops off significantly if I vary the stretch above or below 10 o’clock by even as little as 10 degrees.

I’d be curious to know if anyone else in the low LOT group has a similar limited range of effective tunica stretching positions. The only other explanation I have for this is at higher angles (between 10 o’clock and 12 o’clock) I experience too much PC tug back, which unconsciously makes me not stretch as hard.

I thought if you had a high LOT you needed to work ligs

and stretch at a low angle.

If you have a low LOT, you need tunica work and should

stretch at a high angle.

Do I have this bass akwords?

> Do I have this bass akwords?

No (unless I’m getting it backward too). but if you have a low LOT and are doing tunica work you need to pick a good angle that allows most stress on the tunica, this is limited by position and the form of stretch used.

mem,

>If you are stretching at an angle where kegeling has no effect I don’t see the point in doing a blaster, seems like wasted work.<

I agree, but I have not yet found an angle where blasters have not had an effect. I havent tried extensivley with OTS + blasters though, so I cant speak for that.

>If you’re intention is to stretch ligs only you might as well find an angle that is below your LOT angle.<

Change might as well to ‘should’. I didnt say anything to the contrary.

>I’ve always stretched upward because I was worried about effects on erection angle and if this is the path a person is following where they are stretching ligs and tunica then following a methods that makes this the most effective it can be seems sensible. Then you are into the land of JAI’s and blasters or simply vstrtches if you can relax the PC fully.<

I have no idea what you are on about here.

SS4

>I havent tried extensivley with OTS + blasters though, so I cant speak for that.
Have you tried BTC? The ligs are attached at the top so the further back your angle the more you should effect ligs and the less you should effect the tunica because the ligs are the weak point.

>I have no idea what you are on about here.
I’m simply suggesting that if you are stretching ligs then avoid stretching the tunica. If you are stretching the tunica find a method that helps you put stress on the tunica rather than the PC muscle. If you are stretching both at the same time then fine but its all about awareness of what you are doing imo.

Of course any grip near the end of the shaft is going to stress the tunica.

Holy Replies Batman!

I am so glad I made this thread. I really hope it helps determine some specific plans of attack for everyone. This forum is the best PE Think Tank Available.

mem,

>Have you tried BTC? <

You are asking me if I have tried BTC?
Or do you mean with blasters? If so, when I said the above I meant that OTS is the only angle I have not done extensive blaster work with, although I have done a bit. This includes side angles, where I found blasters to be effective.

>The ligs are attached at the top<

You dont say.

>so the further back your angle the more you should effect ligs and the less you should effect the tunica because the ligs are the weak point.<

Elementary.

>I’m simply suggesting that if you are stretching ligs then avoid stretching the tunica. <

I agree, and vice versa.

>If you are stretching the tunica find a method that helps you put stress on the tunica rather than the PC muscle. <

The PC muscle is very small and can only take as much stress as the force it generates at peak contraction, which will not be very much. A few pounds tops.

>If you are stretching both at the same time then fine <

+

>Of course any grip near the end of the shaft is going to stress the tunica.<

I think it is not so much fine, but I a can live with the unavoidable ‘crossover’ that takes place.

We both have the same point I feel, divide and conquer to the maximum extent possible.

SS4

I have. I did reverse kegels BTC soon after I started seriously hanging, and noted then that they had more effect than the ab crunches Bib had mentioned. I felt the stretch more after relaxing from the RK.

Now, the odd thing is I can feel RK’s working (actually more on the relaxation after the RK) hanging OTS and BTC, but they don’t do a damn thing SO.

Re: A-stretch angles, I don’t have much choice. I’m barely long enough to do an A-stretch. Tension is applied at the base in an upward direction. I don’t see any way to change that unless I switch to a V-stretch.

SS4,
>>The ligs are attached at the top<<
>You dont say.<
lol.

Yeah its all elmentary stuff.

> The PC muscle is very small and can only take as much stress as the force it generates at peak contraction, which will not be very much. A few pounds tops. <

This I find interesting. My PE experience is almost all manual with next to no hanging experience. When I’m stretching with an inverted v putting a serious amount for stress on I can still pull back with a kegel. What kind of weight do you think gets over this? If you are hanging at this weight then what is the advantage of doing a blaster if the PC can’t resist the weight anyway.

>We both have the same point I feel, divide and conquer to the maximum extent possible.<
That makes best sense to me on a purely theorectical base but up until very recently I’ve tried to avoid downward lig stressing angles (and definately avoid side to side) and focused on inverted v’s and yet I still have a LOT of 6, go figure. I’d love to go back in time and measure my LOT.

hobby,

> I have. I did reverse kegels BTC soon after I started seriously hanging, and noted then that they had more effect than the ab crunches Bib had mentioned. I felt the stretch more after relaxing from the RK.<
Thats interesting. What do you put that down to? could it be that a kegel and relax allows for an even greater angle BTC or that it allows a little rearrangement to occur producing an even more effective angle. I take it you don’t have a weird LOT.

> Now, the odd thing is I can feel RK’s working (actually more on the relaxation after the RK) hanging OTS and BTC, but they don’t do a damn thing SO.<

That is strange, I feel it pretty well straight out. I do find that if I attach a stretch at one angle and move into another angle I can increase the effectiveness of the stress. Though for me the most effective way to get a stretch is to increase the tension gradualy.

> Re: A-stretch angles, I don’t have much choice. I’m barely long enough to do an A-stretch. Tension is applied at the base in an upward direction. I don’t see any way to change that unless I switch to a V-stretch.<

Maybe an implement would work here? something with less diameter than your arm that would allow freedon of movement held against the thighs and altering the angle further by going from lying to sitting or something (dld and 1 quest mentioned this in an earlier thread). I didn’t have a baseball bat handy but a rolling pin did an excellent job.

I have tried a flat piece of flexible smooth wood (a large nail file for the feet) It is about .25” in thickness and about 10” long. It is solid enough to support the stretch but flexable enough to create pretty much any angle.