Average size, who are we kidding?

This is one of the reasons I set out to find a semi-definitive answer (is that possible:D )

The one thing that is proven that should bring comfort to anyone struggling with what is average is the fact that this shit works and the standards of what are average really become insignificant as we make strides in PE.

Exactly, I’m over average ( 6.75x5.25 ), but that doesn’t really matters, what it’s important to me it’s that I can get 8 x 6 ^_^

Knowing about being above average helped a bit to not be so ashamed of my dick, but now I feel really good that I know I’ll grow…

Average is just a word for surveys, the way you look at it, if it’s small, medium, large it’s the way you’re gonna feel comfortable about it.

c-ya

I have only gained .25 more in girth in the past 6 to 8 months. My exercises have been jelqing, stretching, and a lot of heavy squeezing. I have gained fast in girth but length has been more difficult for me. I recently started hanging with my wifes approval. After starting the hanging my wife was not as interested in making love as she was before. When I asked what was wrong she told me that she was having anxiety about my hanging, and the reason she said it was ok was because she didn’t want to disappoint me. She said that I am the perfect size now and that she really doen’t want me to gain any more. She has told me when I have asked, that my gains do feel better than my original size ( especially the girth) so I always thought that more would be even better. Now I have finally realized that she is not saying the things that she does, just to make me feel good about myself, but for some reason at times I am not content with my gains and have to remind myself that my wife is happy with me now and that I don’t want to do any thing to hurt our relationship. Oh and last night we made love and she had a total of 6 orgasms, which is a new record and I am on top of the world right now.

quest

As usual, DLD has made excellent points on this whole “average size” thing. I for one, in my very first post, (admittedly after lurking for a few months) gave my stats. Again, NBPEL 5.25, BPEL 6.00, EG 4.5. Am I ashamed of these numbers. NO. It’s what they are, what the Good Lord gave me. I have had a few partners, not many, the fit was always good. Luck, maybe, that I have run across the Grand Canyon yet?! Don’t know, don’t care. I’m doing this for myself, as much for the sexual health aspects as for any increases in size that result. I’m in this for the long haul.

Again, as DLD points out, numbers can be skewed so easily due to small sample sizes, etc. What I would like to see is a definative size survey, you know, get a couple of doctors and 2 or 3 thousand guys and do it right.

B&W

Hey 1quest…
Its just a vibe I’m getting but I suspect that your wife doesn’t really mind the fact that you are doing PE (thus the approval to do it) but what happened is that when she actually saw you with a contraption hooked up to you unit…the reality of it all set into her mind and can invoke weird thoughts about you and your PE obsession even though she is going to absolutely LOVE the end result of all your PE efforts.

After all those orgasms you gave her I think that with time she will learn to adjust her distaste to visual that hanging can give.
I have to admit…although hanging works for many…it does look weird. :)

Do you think maybe Im on track here?

I think the average size actually ranges from 5.25” nbp to about 6.5” nbp, by average, I would say about 80% of men fall in that catagory, and the other 20% below and above that. Another thing too is that women are bad at judging size. If you look at ruler, a .25” or even .50” inch increase seems like a really insignificant as a measure for most things, yet that extra size for a man is great, but I highly doubt a woman would pick up on that. Another deception too is that girth adds to the look of how “big” a guy is. As said in previous post, size should be measure by girth as well, but most people seem to be concerned with length. If a woman got a look at different guys to determine who was bigger, and one subject measured 6.5 x 5.75, and the other 7 x 4.75, my guess would be that she would pick the first guy as having the “longer” dick, because of that added look with the girth.

I guess my whole point is that we should focus on that we are working to make ourselfs nicer, bigger, and better working units rather than the size. Whether we are in the so called average range or bigger, confidence is key. If you want a bigger dick, get the motivation up and get one, but in the mean while, fuck your lady friends like you have one because you are confident of your size and how to use it.

I have been PEing for almost a year now, I started out “small” at 5.6BP x 4.3” girth. With my 6’1, 190lb body, that package is small. I knew that I wasn’t very big, but that still didn’t stop me from seeing women and pleasing them and they would always come back to me for more. I knew this one girl who had slept with me and 2 of my friends, and I know for a fact that I was the smallest guy in the bunch. The one guy was about 7.5” in length and the other guy i heard from many sources was “very thick”….yet she still came back to me and said I was one of the best that she had…keep sleeping with me, and not those guys anymore. I am now 7.1”BP x 5.1” girth and still growing. I do have goals set to get bigger, but in the meanwhile, I’m still confident of my size. Well I think i’m done rambling…thanks for listening =)

supersizeit
My obsession is nothing compared to when I first started. I was all screwed up from chemo that I was taking for Hep C. and my state of mind is normal now. My wife knows I still perform the jelqing exercises, and she knows that I am really not gaining from them, but that I do it because I like the pumped up feeling it gives me. My unit it so used to the exercises now that I don’t really gain, and I can tell by the feelings compared to when I first started.

You are probably right that the site of the contraption hanging from my unit added to her feelings, but I know her very well and she is being totally honest about the fact that she does not want me to gain any more. There are certain times during the month that she can not take me with her legs on my chest, and I don’t want to get to the point where I can’t do that at all. It is a big turn on for me to get her in that position and fully penetrate.

I hope I have answered your question.

quest

I got a few cents here:

What about the surverys etc being NBP? Alot of them are.
maybe the average BP is closer to 7”….

Also, as others have said, I think guys are far less inclined to post at all if they are small->average, so the ‘sample size’ you get actively posting on boards like this would represent on average a bigger size than you would actually find in a random population sample.

I agree…this is so very true..when the differences in length are not that significant the one with more girth gets the womans approval more often than not. Someone on this forum once said that “length is merely the means to deliver girth” (or something like that)

Its really a package deal scenario…you had many other qualities that far surpassed the other bigger guys…its not always size that women want…

Of course they wont object to a nice size, but if you don’t know how to use it…or worse yet …you are some kind of asshole that mistreats her,then all the size in the world isn’t going to do you a bit of good!

If she is comfortable with your size and more size might possibly jeopardize your sex life with her…well… Hmmmmmm
after all she is your wife and if she is the one you plan to be with forever…I think you know what you need to do …

Maybe more girth would be nice but in your particular situation I would leave the length alone…but it is really your call and not anybody Else’s.

Thanks for the input. I’ve been very depressed about this issue lately. While checking out the newbie forums I just couldn’t believe I was average size. If i was I’m low average. I’d be the guy women would talk about in a negative sense regards to size.

I guess my whole teen life & on penis size has always been my concern. I had no confidence so i just didn’t have sex, turned down a lot of beautiful chicks because of it. Height has also been a bad curse for me since I’m 5.6” and have fallen short of average size there too all my life. There comes a time when you just want something to be proud of. When i hear taller guys are bigger from tons of women I feel let down. Then knowing that average height is 5’9 I realize that a lot of the newbies are probably taller and therefore larger naturally.

The support here is great, you guys always help me battle out my issues. I just need to stay in a mindset and stay away from the members pic sections. Every cock looks huge and that hits the anxiety hard.

Thanks for the discussion.

Hey aarzakk,
I used to compete in marathons and 10 kilometer races quite often and I found that there generally were two schools of thought in competing:

1) You compete against your competitor and always try to catch the guy that was in front of you.

2) You compete against the clock.

I alway chose to compete with the clock and not worry about what others around me were doing (speeding up or slowing down)

In the same vein as PE I am telling you:

Don’t worry about what others around you are doing (how big their units are)

COMPETE AGAINST THE RULER!!!

And everything else (self esteem, confidence, etc.) will work itself out.

Aarzaark, dude I can totally relate to you . I’ve turned down chicks and sex numerous times because of insecurities and it sucks man. I used to obsess about how small I was Flaccid. Couldnt shower with the guys at my gym class, couldnt piss with my friends outside while being drunk. I also have massive bouts of all types of anxiety. Dude, you got to learn to accept you for you thats the bottom line. It made my life easier. I did this before pe man. Dont over analyze the situation, it only makes things worse.

Great post supersizeit. I think that is the most important thing to remember while undertaking a PE routine. Forget what everyone else is doing….forget how big everyone else is….forget how fast everyone else is gaining….and just do it for yourself! What does it matter how big anyone else is when you’re growing yourself, and doing something about it :)

I think the NBP/BP-thing is a major part in causing all this confusion and insecurity that we all (more or less) are affected by. I mean really, who knows for sure how bonepressed or how none-bonepressed the objects in the known surveys measured? If you look at the measuring instructions of some of the online surveys for example, the intructions are vague to say the least. My point is: If we look at an “official” survey that were supposed to measure NBPL ,we can never know for sure if the subjects didn´t press that ruler a little bit into his pubic pad, can we? The opposite goes too: If it is a BPL-survey, it´s pretty hard to be sure if the objects really pressed the ruler hard against the bone or if they just pressed so hard they thought were appropriate at that time.

As for the “large average” on these forums, I think it´s because we are PEers; we chase every slight fraction of an inch, trying to kill every possible bit of variation between our measurments. In this community accuracy is a virtue, it´s not like in some more or less vague survey where they say: “Get an erection, measure your dick from root to top. That´ll do it!”.

Just my 2 cents.

/sizemoore