Average size, who are we kidding?

I have read numerous surveys, polls, and scientific data that suggests the actual average size is somewhere between 5-6 inches in length and about 5 inches of girth. I saw one study that showed that black men on average were about an inch longer then that and asian men were about an inch shorter.

That data sounds about correct to me. But then again its very hard to guys lie of course about their measurements and there is always a margin for error such as measuring or recording the data and so on.

That sounds about right. Any survey that relies on men to measure their own dicks is bullshit. At least half an inch should be automaticlly subtracted from the end results. You can be sure a guy measuring his own tool would tilt it just a lil bit down or do any other tricks that would seem “fair” to him but would falsify the results. This includes of course the Kinsley survey where guys measured their own dicks with bleeping post cards…

The real medical surveys would show lengths between 5 and 6 and I have no doubt the measurement is BP, as any doc would know about the fat tissue which would make a penis appear to be smaller.

Just my 0.02 cents.

I can relate to that. I always told myself I was 15cm (6”) but I was only kidding myself about that last cm. However, I needed that to feel ‘average’.

Yet, I would imagine that the average of between 5” & 6” would be nbp. First, because maybe doctors knew about bp, but no-one else, and I never saw any mention made to that in the surveys. On the contrary, I did read that the measurement was from where the penis loined the body to the tip of the glans, and hence I also measured in that way.

Secondly, that would have put me “above average” pre-PE, and I can’t accept that. I was told I was small, and never got any positive comment about my penis - except from an ex’s sister who told me that my ex had told her that I had a quote “nice penis”. I understood that as nice looking, not any other sense. And it was second hand info.

And I had been with quite a few girls before starting PE.

I think that most of us, myself included, press as hard as we can on the bone when we measure, giving us pretty good numbers. Most of the surveys are bone pressed, but not nearly as hard as we press. The Kinsey study, for example, used note cards. Now I know there is no way to press a note card as hard as a ruler.
Most starting stats would be smaller if we all did it in this way. There are two good things about our method however. The first is that we can consistently measure every time and accurately record gains. The second is obvious: we love to see ourselves creeping up that ruler.

~TS

My ex-girlfriend told me that I have a good sized dick. She has been with 9 guys and said only one was bigger. I was just under 6” bp at the time, so form my experience 5.5” - 6.5” seem to be the average. A friend of mine slept with this girl a while back, and she has been telling people that he was huge. He told me he was 7”, and I’m sure he exaggerated it a little. I know I would if I was telling him how big mine was. I think a lot of girls get ruined by the sight of a large dick in real life or maybe from porn, then when they see an average one they think it is small.

I agree. I think that guys above 7” bpel are bigger than average. And even the term “average” is misleading. Think of average height - I know many guys taller than average, but does that make the average “wrong”? No. I’ve read that 26% of all men are right at 6” length. That leaves a percentage at < 6 and a percentage at > 6.

If you think about it, many smaller guys probably do not throw it around. I’ve read some sad posts about really small guys avoiding sex all their lives because of fear of being shamed. And, well-hung guys probably like to throw it around a lot. So, the big-dicked fellows have probably hit more than their share of women (some of whom you’ve been with, apparently). And the really small guys (who certainly do exist) probably don’t show their members to as many women.

The oldest, most common stats put the average at 5-7” erect, with 26% of men right at 6 inches. I’m not sure about girth.

But remember, there are men out there with 4” erect and even less, and guys with monsters over 11 inches and huge girth.

WestLA, Northstar, etc… D*mn right!

Not to be to hard on some of you guys but what the F*CK are you thinking!! Do not ask a woman what size her previous lovers were. This aint rocket science my friends, its basic psychology. You say ” So, how big were the other guys you have been with?” What she hears: ” I have a teenie tiny weenie and am horribly insecure about it”

I have had plenty of lovers tell me about previous partners. Some tinny, some huge, some crazy or tragic or the love of her life. They do this because they feel comfortable with me. Because they know that I do not judge them and will be interested in what ever they want to share. They do this because I have zero insecurities about sh*t like this, and they can sense that nothing they say will hurt or upset me.

Please, anyone that hasn’t done an archives crawl on stuff like insecurity or confidence do so. We have some kick ass information in the archives. For some guys this stuff will be even more life changing than getting a bigger dick.

hi…first post here.

im just starting pe…and unfortunately my little doodle measures up to about 4.8” nbpel and a little over 5.2 bone pressed….and roughly 4.7” in girth…definetly not thrill material.

Ive gotten afew *favours* by these strippers that me and my mates know…and to my amazement when i flopped it out, not one of these girls even flinched over how small it was…i had told one of these girls that i thought my weener was small and when she saw it she was amazed that i thought my dick was small…in her words it was ‘the size most men have’ and according to her shes seen a lot of dicks. So i consider 5” top be the lower side of average and 6” to be the upper.

Hey xristo,

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I was just reading the first couple of pages of this thread, and I will have to agree with the original poster with one thing. I believe many guys in this forum are waiting until they reach 6” BPEL (is that correct for bone pressed erect length?) before they post their REAL starting measurements. I don’t know if I’m the first person to do this, however I just wanted to note that before this message, I’ve been pretty much reading what other veteran members had to say about PE’ing. I honestly didn’t start posting messages until I started seeing gains with my routine. Speaking of my routine, I started in the end of November. Right before I had even starting a single jelq motion of stretch, I measure my penis at a whopping 4.8” BPEL.

That’s right, I probably have one of the smallest starting measurements on this forum, but honestly I really don’t mind sharing with you guys, cause from what I’ve noticed, most of you have been very helpful.

Now the only reason why I’m posting now, is the fact that I read aarzakk’s post. I believe people in my range who have “just started”, should be honest from here on in with their starting measurement.

Now the reason why I encourage all the “below average” guys out there to state their true starting measurements (not implying that guys whos start off at 6.5” are lying) is the fact that we shouldn’t feel the need to compare with each other. As long as we’re all achieving what we came here to achieve then that’s all that matters.

I am proud to say with all of the different threads I’ve been reading while lurking silently in this forum for the past month, I have a new BPEL of 5.40” BPEL, and my girth has improved greatly from when I first started. I still have a long way to go, but I’m ready for the challenge.

By the way, with the quick results I “think” I’m achieving in this month of December alone, is it realistic to aim for an 8 x 6 inch penis by the end of 2005?

>>I am proud to say with all of the different threads I’ve been reading while lurking silently in this forum for the past month, I have a new BPEL of 5.40” BPEL, and my girth has improved greatly from when I first started. I still have a long way to go, but I’m ready for the challenge. >>

Good work. Now stop lurking and start posting!

>>By the way, with the quick results I “think” I’m achieving in this month of December alone, is it realistic to aim for an 8 x 6 inch penis by the end of 2005?>>

3 inches in 2 years may be a little ambitious. 3 inches in possible - but who knows the time frame required? Why not have easy short term goals on your way to your ultimate goal?

Good gains Siktrix! and I think you’re right , what’s important is that everyone achieves his goals whatever his starting size is. What’s your length routine ?

My current girlfriend has been with a lot of diffrent men, she says I am the biggest and I am only 7x5. My female friend says I am one of the biggest she has seen and she has sucked more dicks than anyone I know, and I work on porn films(not an actor). Anyway I have exactly 9 great friends that I speak about our dick sizes with and I am the longest in the group. So I believe 6 inches is average length.

Just a little more fodder for this thread.

I posted 6.5 bpe and 5.0 girth as starting measurements. The odd thing is that 20 years ago, I measured 6.0 bpe. I’m thinking that excessive wanking over the years added some length because I knew nothing about PE back then.

Also, I just got married 3 years to a wonderful woman who over the previous 20 some years slept with half of the men in the united states (her words). she’s been with the whole range of dicks, extra small (could tell if he was in), to extra large (hurts too much to enjoy it).

She is compulsively critical which makes her honest and her conclusion, once she had my member in hand, was that I was that I had a fat dick and was above average in length. This was when I was 6.5 X 5.0.

This leads me to conclude that the penis size poles are correct and 6.0 is the average length and 4.75 is the average girth.

Another thought occured to me while reading this thread. Now that people know PE works, beginning stats will be more accurate if not more understated. I say this because we all like an ego boost and down the road when we’re all 9X6, it’s more impressive to say we started at 4X3.

If:
6 L is average and
24 out of 100 guys are about 6 L and
38 out of 100 guys are below and
38 out of 100 guys are above
calculate in bigger guys having twice has many women (2 to 1 ratio)
Then:
A woman that has sex with 99 guys(just using this number example to keep it simple figuring) may meet:
24 men 6 L
25 men shorter
50 men longer

Going by this,if she has been with 12 guys
and round off she may likely meet:
3 guys about 6x5
3 guys shorter
6 guys longer

I think this shows what has been confusing us. It shows just how easy it is for a woman to have met a longer guy.

The same numbers can be applied to thickness.
So we now have(that she meets):
6 out 12 guys longer (50%)
6 out of 12 guys thicker(50%)

50% + 50% = 100% !

Still, some of the longer guys may have also been the same thicker guy, so 100% doesn’t apply.
Still though, this gives an indication as to what is confusing us into asking what we do—“How can every woman we meet have met bigger, usually many bigger?” “How can survey numbers be right, it doesn’t make sense.” It seems in the end it does make sense afterall.