I have been getting girth without wanting it—I am hanging and looking for length first. Don’t know if it is the hanging SD over a 1 1/2” fulcrum or the jelks with Curel lotion that is doing it. Gained 1’4” to a constant 6 1/4” base. Curel seems to be a good lotion to give a good long sustained pull while jelking—it is not so slick as to slip you off the end too quickly. Wifey said, “It’s to fat-around. It hurts.” and tended to like it not all the way in. Go figure—when I started PE she would say, after I came, “I don’t feel it.” It’s PAYBACK TIME!