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Concept: Growth Ratio?

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Concept: Growth Ratio?

I have been thinking about something lately, and I’ve never seen any mention of it before so I would like to toss this out there. It concerns the way you grow in PE, length vs. girth. I began thinking about it as a ratio. In my own case, I want to gain about 3 inches length, but only about 1 inch of girth. So that would be a 3 to 1 ratio, or 3:1 ratio to abbreviate it. Suppose you started at 6 BPEL by 5 EG. Months later you check, and now you are at 7 BPEL by 6 EG. The length has grown an inch, and the girth has grown an inch. So that’s a 1:1 “growth ratio.” I was wondering what the vets out there have experienced, the ones that have kept good records and measurements and such, what your experience has been with this.

The reason I ask is I’m wondering if a 3:1 ratio is maybe impossible, or unrealistic, somehow. Maybe it grows a certain way, within limints, and we have little control over it. Or maybe there is great lattitude in customizing your goals, and manipulating things the way you want.

Would anyone like to chime in here? Please respond only if you KNOW that you have kept track well and taken measurements regularly. If you don’t know or are ‘just guessing’ it would just muck things up. I think it would be informative for all of us, maybe we can establish something useful with real numbers. I think at the least we could establish some clues for how people gain using different techniques. Maybe hangers get more length, strictly manual exercises gets a more ‘even’ growth, or whatever. All we need is some honest data, and maybe we can discover something, put some numbers to it, so people can estimate their future growth patterns, or how to change them.

If you would like to respond, please give just a quick “overview” description of your PE career: what you did, for how long, and what the growth was during that period. Then go back and look at those growth periods… keeping this ratio thing in mind. Just subtract the old length from the new length, and subtreact the old girth away from the new girth, and you have your ratio numbers! Sound interesting?

For example, a post could go something like this:

“I did the newbie routine for three months, and grew 1.0 Length by zero Girth during this period. (so that’s a 2:0 ratio.) Then I did pumping and manual exercises for nine months, and grew 1 by 1. (1:1) Then the second year I did hanging, and grew 2 by 1 inches.” (2:1.) You could also discover an ‘overall growth ratio’ for everything in your history, combined!

Simple as that. Is anyone game? Maybe we can learn some trends or something, please chime in. :)


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Last edited by electron : 10-25-2004 at .

OK here goes
Manual stretching and wet jelqing +1.5 EL, +0.16 EG (9.375:1)
Hanging + 0.68 EL, +0.03 EG (22.66:1)
OVER ALL +2.18 EL, +0.23 EG (9.478:1)

I bet that throws a spanner in your theory doesn’t it? :chuckle:

Actually, no it doesn’t…it shows hanging is better for length than manual exercises.

Nice work electron!

I got curious last night and started looking through the database at a few people’s numbers. My spreadsheet is turning out numbers in decimal format, when it divides the numbers out. So far, most people seem to come out with between a 0.5 or 1.0 ratio, up to about a 4.0 or 5.0 ratio. (It’s just a little sample list of about 30 members so far.)

Then there was Andrew69, coming in at 7.893 (rounded to three decimal places) from what it said. I was gonna say… “Jeez what the hell are you doing there, dude?” :)

Are you using that new ‘truck-pull’ method? The one where you tell the wife to get in the truck, hook a rope onto your dick and attach it to the bumper, then tell her to put it in gear and ‘go for it?’ Wow man, thats incredible!

But yes, it gives us an indication of how different methods give what results.


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Last edited by electron : 10-25-2004 at .

I think 3/1 ratio is perfectly reasonable to try for. My total gains since pre-PE size 5 years ago are very close to that ratio.

I’ve gained 3.50” in length and 1.00” in girth in one year’s time, most of it in the first four months—all manual, jelqing and stretching. I had gained l.25” in girth, but lost a quarter inch, to length, I assume: ration? 3.5 to 1. Possible? Yes!!

HH


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Horsehung

Interesting concept. Slightly under 2:1 for me.

I wonder if the ratios should be calculated based on percentage gains, not absolute gains.

RBM


Start 6/13/04: 6.0 BPEL x 5.125 EG (midshaft) Current 10/17/04: 6.938 BPEL x 5.625 EG (midshaft) Come on 7! Disclaimer: I'm not an advanced member, but my member is advancing. ;)

Sorry, specific is not my forté ;)

I know I have gained alot more length alot more easily than girth. About 2-3:1.

At my last measurement, I had a gain ratio of 2.75:1 (bpel:eg). But part of the bpel gains were from loss of fat pad.


IW8 4/2003 5.5 BPEL 4.5 EG 218 lbs 4/2004 6.875 BPEL 5.0 EG 198 lbs

Next stop 7.0 BPEL !

MDC and HH, I’m glad to hear, and see, that 3:1 is attainable. Maybe I’ve read too many girth articles lately! It had me worried there.

RubberBandMan, there might be something to that. I just wanted to look at it the way, I think, most guys probably would:

Point ‘a’ where they are at, and point ‘b’ where they want to go.

Just keep it simple and try to discover some trends. So I’m just keeping it a simple formula: growth ratio equals length gains divided by girth gains.

GR=Length gains/Girth gains

Whatever, lol. I don’t expect it will give any ‘earthshaking news’ but we could probably get some ‘general ideas’ from it. I think it would be generally agreed by most that hanging is better for length. But wouldn’t it be interesting to know how MUCH more, even in just a generalized sense. Maybe we can learn something about jelqing, or pumping. We could start making rough estimates or plan our growth a little better maybe. I don’t know, just a thought. My weird brain does things like that. :)

>Sorry, specific is not my forté.<

secjay: :)

Now that I’m in school again, the math-head in me is coming out. What can I say…

i_want_8_inches: Umm… I’m still a little new here, but how does the fat pad have any effect on it, if they were bone-pressed (BPEL) measurements? :D


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Truck pull….damn….how did you know?:chuckle:

I guess I am just a freak!

Oh and believe my, I wish it was more like 3 or 4:1

Doesn’t it factor somewhere that because hanging grips so much of the penis that it will distort the growth ratio results compared to exercises such as Jelqing and stretching, which are much more ‘whole body’ exercises (in penis terms) ?

I’ve seen many reports of base girth improving with hanging. If it were stretched from the glans then I’d expect a more proportional Length vs Girth response since that would be cell division in the main body rather than a bias toward the ligs.

Originally Posted by electron
i_want_8_inches: Umm… I’m still a little new here, but how does the fat pad have any effect on it, if they were bone-pressed (BPEL) measurements? :D

They were bone pressed measurements, however, the ruler was not actually touching the bone, it was touching the skin that was on top of the fat pad, that was touching the bone. I don’t have a clue how to measure exactly how much gain was from the loss of fat, but when I started loosing weight and fat, my gains came quicker.


IW8 4/2003 5.5 BPEL 4.5 EG 218 lbs 4/2004 6.875 BPEL 5.0 EG 198 lbs

Next stop 7.0 BPEL !

BUMP!

Actually I thought that some of the newer members might benefit from seeing this.

The whole concept is this: You can track your progress and see if your growth is heading in the direction of your final goal or not. Then you will know if you need to worry about changing or modifying your routine so that you will end up where you want to end up at. You don’t want to arrive at your length goal, with your girth goal being totally unacceptable, do you? So why not arrive at both goals, at the same time, if possible. :)

You subtract your “current” numbers from your “desired goal” numbers, and then divide the numbers to get a ratio. This gives you the desired growth ratio, the ratio you would like to grow in to get from “here” to “there”, so to speak. Now, as you begin to grow, you take your measurements like usual and write them down. As you grow you can use these measurements to your advantage. Take your recent measurements, then subtract your beginning measurements from that. figure teh ratio.

Is it close to the same ratio? If it is, then you don’t need to worry much about changing your routine to something different… you are “on track” so to speak. Growing in the direction that will take you to your goal without modifying anything.

Is your “current” growth ratio wildly different from your “desired” growth ratio? If it is, then you might need to worry about changing your routine: doing special girth exercises. or length exercises, so that you arrive at both your girth and length goals, at the same time. If not, then you don’t need to worry about it.

Then you don’t need to worry about arriving at your girth goal, but not your length goal… (or vice-versa) and have to freak out doing “last minute weird stuff” to get things where you want them.


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I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. -Richard Dawkins

Hey Horsehung what is your routine like? If you don’t mind me asking.


Start (6-10-05) BPEL: 6.7" |EG: 4.6" |NBP: 5.9"

Now (10-26-06) BPEL: 7.75 |EG:5" |NBP: 7.05"

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