Does Sex/Masturbation Hinder Gains

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All this is just a waste of energy. You all know we’re going to do it anyway, so enjoy!, enjoy!, enjoy!, enjoy!, and see if you can hit the ceiling!

Whew, that was good! :chuckle:

I agree. Last night after a PE session (about 15minutes after), I decided to edge and unfortunatly blew my load. Well, my dick hurts like hell. When I got a hard on lying down last night, I actually felt if I didn’t suport my dick it would break off. Hmmm….maybe its just me. Point is, I say leae edging and masturbation to off days.

Babbis, does PE work? (:

No, it is all smoke and mirrors…oh, shit! I was not supposed to tell.. Now I will have thunders assassins on my 6 O`clock!

My point is that when something is hard to accomplish (no pun intended) people often over analyze and over complicate it even further. A typical example is body building. If one wants to build muscle and look buff, one can rent books or ask friends that one knows have done it before for advice.

Let`s use me as an example. I found a couple of forums on the net and read up on diet, base exercises and asked around. This coupled with my own knowledge about the subject gave me a rough plan;

1. Eat more (calorie surplus), use supplements like seal oil, raps oil, multivitamin, protein powder, creatine, carbo powder, sink and magnesium.

2. Work each muscle group 2-3 times per week using a old, tried and tested program (5x5) that consists of base exercises such as; bench press, squat, dead lift, barbell row, military press.

3. Rest, mix in some cardio now and then and be consistent.

With this plan and my own dedication I added 6kg (13.2lbs) of muscle on my entire body in about 2months. In these two months I missed one workout and forgot to drink one of my protein shakes one evening. Other then that I stuck to the plan and lifted progressively heavier weights.

I am fairly confident that I could help anyone build muscle if they did what I instructed them to do. I am also fairy confident that they would fail to do as I instructed them if I had them do something that they really did not like and that they felt was not normal for them to do.

Having people focus on not ejaculating through masturbation and/or intercourse so that they do not hinder/lose gains is in my opinion a surefire way to make people “fail” and/or obsess even more about their penis. It could also result in a negative image about ejaculating, possibly resulting in insecurities about their sexual life and the lacking ability to become multiorgasmic, holding back ejaculation and dry orgasms.

I stand by my original post and firmly believe that if ejaculation hinders gains, the veterans would have found out and there would have been warnings. Also, I have picture proof of my own gains, and I have never put any effort into limiting my ejaculations, ever. I also have video proof of some of my gains but that is too little still to be a viable proof. I also have picture proof of my team members gains that any photo shop expert are welcomed to pick apart to look for forgery.

That can’t be true or I’d have been a foot long by the time I got my first piece.

There are some things in life you don’t really like to mess with, or think about too much. I suppose this ejaculation business might be something like this for you.

All I can say is 1) It’s not that hard, 2) You can fail, it’s no problem. Just try again.
If you consider trying it, that is.

Actually there are some warnings. Many don’t ejaculate before or after a few hours of the workouts, and there are many people who don’t ejaculate at their workout days.

And I don’t say you can’t gain if you ejaculate. It depends on the current situation of the individual. But ejaculation has a lessening effect in either case: on both the gains and the “situation”.
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The question of “why?” may come to mind. The answer is: “youth, more energy, deeper sex and orgasms, longer life..” .Definitely worth it.

Longer life?
I can edge for over an hour even if I have a hard time coming to the point of ejacultion I have to force myself or I go crazy. And if you read any of my post then you know I already crazy enough.

I suppose it is each to his own.

I still agree with babbis.

Explin longer life how does not ejaculating extend ones life?

Not ejaculating has to be combined with some methods and techniques. The idea is to transfer the sexual energy at the balls to the body and head via the backbone.
Just stimulating your dick, but not transferring the energy, will just make you crazy. If you’re masturbating.

But I believe there’s a chance for that up-rise of energy happening during sex naturally for some people, if they’re ready somehow physically. The methods are just to aid this natural process: awakening a natural potential.

If one’s ejaculating that energy constantly, instead of transferring it to the body, the organs and brain suffer. Because the energy and nutrients needed for the reproduction of sperm will have to be supplied by the body. It’s like a hole at the base of the bucket: constantly draining an energy reservoir.

Research Taoist sex techniques or tantra if you have further interest. Or just try it to see if you’re lucky :)

This is why I advise fellow baters to keep up there Zinc and vitamin “C” supply.

So how long do you go w/o ejaculating I’m down to two days per week due to time constraints and due to the fact that I can go on and on. I can distribute the energy.

Is there a disadvantage to masturbating and ejaculating STRAIGHT after a jelqing/stretching session/routine?

I seem to be making a habit out of it (I’ve done it 2 or 3 times now). I think the jelqing makes me horny or something. Something about sliding over your cock with the lube. That probably sounds strange, haha, but I’m trying to understand why I feel the need to do it.

Anyway, is there an advantage to it, like, it helps you warm down?

I read somewhere that ejaculating and going into (I think it’s called.) refraction period after a PE workout can cancel out the work you’ve just done. Something about the muscles relaxing up or something that isn’t beneficial?

Anyways, I’d like to add edging to the end of my routine (and eventually finishing/ejaculating). Is there anything wrong with this? I will stop if I have to.

I’d like to get lots of opinions on this, as there seems to be no proof, only theories and beliefs.

Noop! :/D

As far as I am concerned, there is nothing wrong with masturbating and ejaculating after a PE workout. I have read a lot here, and at other places, and I have not been convinced that it is bad. Those who do practice it don’t seem to have any ill effects, so why not?. Of course there is the old adage that it saps energy, and that I DO BELIEVE. But, with regards to PEing, I don’t think it will, or can, cause any ill effects, other than sapping energy that is.

But, this subject will be hashed out, pro and con, ad finem, and I am not willing to wait so long for an answer. So, in the meantime, I won’t worry about it and will enjoy a good wank when I feel like it! :chuckle:

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I always masturbate after routine! Is it ok?does masturbation help to gain?I think jelq looks like masturbation!

Jelq has very little to with masturbation. And if you want to gain size, you’d better realise that.

Hi soulis23,
Welcome from another APR2007 Newbie.

Yes, it is okay to masturbate after the routine. :) There are many thoughts about that subject, both for and against, but I have not been convinced that it is bad to do so. It seems to have no effect on obtaining gains from PE. Therefore, I will continue to masturbate and enjoy every minute of it.

No, masturbation does not help to gain (length or girth), but it does help “gain” some pleasure for “you” (and not your cock)! :chuckle:

The jelq is not masturbation. Yes, it is similar, but to jelq is to “milk” your cock, by moving the blood into the chambers to engorge them.

Why don’t you complete your PE Statistics so that you can keep a record of your gains and progress from the start. It is easy. Click the “quick link” bar at the top, then PE Statistics.

Good Luck and may your gains be fulfilled. Good PEing.

Panos (Panagiotis)