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Eroset's Vein Oil - for thrombosis and more

You mentioned you were going to mix up a stronger concentration of the oil. Did you, or are you still using the original formula?

Not sure what you’re seeing is that odd. I don’t know, but seems to me that a blockage in the vein would increase the blood pressure behind it, causing the vein to dilate a bit on it’s own anyway. My vein that I originally thrombosed is still a bit more prominent than the ones around it, and still a bit more rigid than the other ones, but like you said. I don’t think this is a problem as much as a sign to keep a close eye on it. It seems to be moving in the right direction for me as it’s completely indistinguishable from the other veins in a flaccid state, and only more noticeable in an erect state.


"It's ALL in your head. You just have no idea how big your head is." - Lon Milo DuQuette "The mind's role in P.E. is more important than the hand that touches the penis." - Mr. Nine Just ignore the crazy old man in his tinfoil-lined pyramid hat, smelling of EVO and muttering Ohhmmm my penis growwwws. He's not always to be taken literally.

The flacid hang is interesting to me, why would you have a better flacid hang

Originally Posted by johnjk
The flacid hang is interesting to me, why would you have a better flacid hang


Have you the the whole thread there, johnjk? Try doing that, the answer is there somewhere.

Hey, Eroset, didn’t you say something about you, me, and a guinea pig? Oh wait, my bad, I was supposed to PM you about that. :D


-rtg

Ahhhh.. there’s a level of danger involved in your little experiment RTG. :mwink: We need a closed-door policy on it until we know the safety.


"It's ALL in your head. You just have no idea how big your head is." - Lon Milo DuQuette "The mind's role in P.E. is more important than the hand that touches the penis." - Mr. Nine Just ignore the crazy old man in his tinfoil-lined pyramid hat, smelling of EVO and muttering Ohhmmm my penis growwwws. He's not always to be taken literally.

Originally Posted by johnjk

The flacid hang is interesting to me, why would you have a better flacid hang

The immediate response that came to mind was the vaso-dilation, but perhaps there is some degree of dilation of the actual Corpus Cavernosum in response to the EVO? Just a thought.


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Eroset, yeah I did another batch last night with greater amounts of Clary Sage, Lemongrass, a bit more rosemary, and I increased the Lavender just to offset the possible burning of the CS and LG. It worked brilliantly, with no burn and I did indeed use less carier oil this go around with no ill effects.

What I was saying was odd is how my veins seem to be transitioning to being relatively incognito to showing through the skin as readily as they are. I have three veins that run along the right side of my penis towards the CS that are just bulging like crazy when I get wood, and the dorsal vein has gotten larger as well. The vein that I was treating last night was slightly elevated under the skin flaccid and erect with no pain or problems at all. So I just thought it odd that it seemed nearly thrombosed but wasn’t.

I just did a quick google, and it looks pretty promising that Rosemary and Clary sage at least, could have relaxant effects on smooth muscle. Even if the oil can’t absorb that deeply, there has to be at least the possibility that breathing them could induce some of the effects.

Okay, reporting on my veins:

All the major veins such as the dorsal vein and a few other huge ones have become less prominent now…. I don’t know if this is a good or bad thing - but I have noticed an INCREDIBLE amount of little veins that I never used to have surfacing and becomming very visible… I know that this must be a good sign at least - maybe a blockage was stopping bloodflow into all this little veins that have just started working again? Hell, I can only hope right?

Conclusion:
No pain, no hard veins, no weird shaped dick! I have to wait longer before I masturbate or PE just to be on the safe side. You will never understand how happy I will be if I can PE again someday!


May the force (of your hand) be with you. :littleguy

Originally Posted by Shiver
I just did a quick google, and it looks pretty promising that Rosemary and Clary sage at least, could have relaxant effects on smooth muscle. Even if the oil can’t absorb that deeply, there has to be at least the possibility that breathing them could induce some of the effects.

What about DMSO as a transdermal carrier , keeping in mind that it carries everything present at the application site?

Just a thought.


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"Rope trades @$10 a yard. I wonder if they even know that?"- Capitalist

I’m not a big fan of DMSO purely for the smell it produces. I don’t know what it smells like to an innocent bystander, but if you put it anywhere on your body I swear you’ll be able to taste it on your tongue in under 30 seconds - it’s that fast!. Its like tasting garlic sweat and licking metal at the same time. The forumla I have is Dr Jacobs ‘DUSA 60’ mix, which is supposedly the low odour mix.

I think it’s a bit of an exaggeration that people say it’ll transfer everything, but it’ll probably work better than anything else out there by several orders of magnitude. Something with a molecule the size of a golf ball (figuratively speaking), it’s not going to go through.

Bear in mind also the warnings about using certain essential oils internally. DMSO could really set the cat among the pigeons.

I agree with you Shiver. DMSO with EVO is the first thing that came to mind as far as experimenting, and I am going to try it, I think, with a very low concentration of DMSO, but the more I research, the more I think it might not be the best idea. From my research (and understand I’m in WAY over my head here… not being a molecular chemist) it seems that some of the EOs, Rosemary and Lemongrass, accomplish their lipopholic penetration through the “fat layers” of the dermis, by “giving up” or “sacrificing” certain chemicals in the process. While I can’t find specific clinical evidence to confirm it yet, I get the idea that these compounds that are sacrificed are the most volatile, and responsible for irritation in higher concentrations, and these are best left sacrificed to the upper layers of the dermis, not whisked through the protective barrier of the skin into deeper tissues. I’m going to have to join PubMed so I can get more than just the extracts. Every time I come across something valuable, I’ve got to hit 10 or 12 more documents just to try to understand what it is I’m reading in the first article.

Hey PEst… you still using a mixture without Lemongrass? Just curious… those little subcutaneous veins becoming more prominent but not the other heavier veins seems odd. Makes me think you might not be getting down deep enough. I, for one, have noticed considerable prominence in my dorsal vein, as well as a ton of the little tiny veins appearing.


"It's ALL in your head. You just have no idea how big your head is." - Lon Milo DuQuette "The mind's role in P.E. is more important than the hand that touches the penis." - Mr. Nine Just ignore the crazy old man in his tinfoil-lined pyramid hat, smelling of EVO and muttering Ohhmmm my penis growwwws. He's not always to be taken literally.

Originally Posted by Shiver
.Bear in mind also the warnings about using certain essential oils internally. DMSO could really set the cat among the pigeons.

Good point in re internal application of oils. I was just brainstorming.

Otherwise, the smell never really bothered me, I always thought of it as an indication that it was working.

As to molecule size, granted.


WE are the 99% 'WE are the people you depend on; we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Don't f&ck with us'-- Madame DeFarge

"Rope trades @$10 a yard. I wonder if they even know that?"- Capitalist

Then perhaps it’s worth trying DMSO with an EO that is considered fairly innocent, even if it’s nothing to do with PE, just to see how well it works. I think the Rosemary oil might be a good candidate though.

From what I understand about DMSO it would aid in delivery but for the purposes here I don’t find it to be a desirable addition. The DMSO could cause greater absorption into the lower layers like Ero pointed out, but it could also bond differently because of the EO and it may not turn out to be a wise decision. That’s what I think on that particualr subject.

Now, I’ve found something interesting. I used the new mixture last night and this afternoon, and it wasn’t too bad nothing major to report. For some reason when I did another session this evening (clamping) with the first mixture the bruising wasn’t very bad at all. The smaller veins were quite visable when I first started the session (fluid buildup towards end of session) and my large dorsal vein seemed larger than normal, and my “angered” vein was not at all inflamed nor did it appear to be disturbed at all. I’m not sure at the moment what the most significant difference is between the two, or possibly the first mixture is spot on as far as what EVO needs to be, but I may make up a third batch to see if there is any difference at all. I can say that the second batch did seem to eleminate the bruising rapidly after the session was over, as when I started my evening session there was no bruising at all. I’m going to check on this again tomorrow and see if it’s just mental.

I also noticed that the increased amount of Lemongrass gave it a sweet lemony aroma and when I first opened the container last night I got instant wood. It filled the room and having the fans off and the hot water made the aroma nice and thick in the air. It was interesting to say the least. My second mixture contains 1/3 cup of Extra Virgin Olive Oil, 1/2 tbsp of lavender, 1/2 tspoon of rosemary and Clary Sage, and 1 t-spoon or so of Lemongrass.

EROSET, is the second batch even in the ball park of being similar to the original. My intent was to essentially double all aspects, and maybe this is where I erred but I’m willing to give it another go if necessary. It seems that this batch of oil is more “oily” and not as “thick” as the first batch. It seems to be looser and more free flowing out of the bottle. I’m not sure why that would be so.

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