Eroset's Vein Oil - for thrombosis and more

The format on most cards (or all the ones I’ve used) can be viewed in windows and deleted in the same way. If you don’t have a way to get the card viewable as a drive on your computer, then I’d consider buying the cheapest memory card available for the camera, and keeping that for your own use rather than using your dads and worrying about whether it’s properly deleted.

With regard to the vein, although it’s not as deep as feared, it might still be a little far for the oil to reach going by what’s been said on this thread. I would look out for what Sparky reports back regarding dmso. I might even temporarily occlude the target area (for a few minutes) to give it first shot at what ever actives were used.

Thanks Shiver :)

Hey guys, well Eroset suggested I share this idea with you. I’ve recently been experimenting with heating the EVO and I’ve found that as a result it penetrates much more quickly and effectively. Here is how I go about heating it. First get yourself a seal able glass bottle I use a salad dressing mixer pour the EVO in. Next fill your sink up with water as hot as you can get from the tap. Submerse the bottle for about ten minutes (thicker glass may take longer) take out the bottle shake and apply. Just a cautionary note some people have taps hotter than other so test to make sure the oil isn’t scalding or anything before you apply it.

Good one Vees. IR heat works well too.

I may try this, I have mine in a plastic soap bottle though, should be okay.

I just wondered though, would the heat interfere with the healing properties of the essential oils?

I can tell you from experience using the heated oil that if anything it seems to work better. I use it as jelg lube, but I still hang heavier, longer afterwards so you could probably extrapolate that it’s still doing it’s job as a vasodialator. That’s more or less it’s benefit for treating thrombosed veins so I think you’ll still be cool…..or hot. You should probably be putting heat on anyway so why not do it all in one step.

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You can not mix DMSO with oil.

Nope, not the kind of heat that Veesel is talking about. When the wife makes “cold process” soap, the heat gets upwards of 250 degrees I believe. Warming the oil gently the way Veesel does should only serve to make it feel better and improve absorption. I’m not sure it will get it warm enough to cross the passive/active absorption line, but having those molecules moving faster should only help.

IMHO this does NOT mean you should skip heating yourself up as well, though. Especially if treating thrombosis, you want that tissue nice and pliable and those pores wide open.

An additional tip for absoption passed on by miketakk I believe, it helps if you start with clean skin, like right out of the shower. Dead skin cells, lint from your clothing and other environmental junk only serve to hinder absorption, to that end some light exfoliating in the shower would help as well. I use an oatmeal soap with very, very coarse oatmeal in it, feels like 20 grit sandpaper. :)

Speak of the devil. Why mike? Will it not stay in suspension with oil? Need an emulsifier? Sparky seemed to use it without difficulty on his arm and we’re waiting with baited breath to hear how it’s working on his johnson.

Is that can’t or shouldn’t? I’ve read a few papers where they did.

(eg: Suppression of neutrophil accumulation in mice by cutaneous application of geranium essential oil | Journal of Inflammation | Full Text)

I talked to Dr. Stanley Jacob. Jeff Jacob from Jacob lab refer ed me to Dr. Stanley Jacob I called him and I asked him about using olive oil +Rosemary oil with DMSO he said you can not use with oil.
I don’t know if I can put Dr. Stanley Jacob phone number here but if you want his number send me a PM.

I have a lot of respect for the Jacobs, they’ve done a lot of good work. I do wonder though what they mean by “can’t”. Perhaps they mean it congeals, or it won’t stay in suspension. It may be that most DMSO is diluted with water, and it’s not the DMSO in particular but their particular product mix (containing water which won’t mix with oil?).

Are there any benign emulsifiers available?

Yeah, the 70% and 50% DMSO on Jacob’s site is in a deionized water base. Certainly can be added to the oil with a little emulsifying wax or bee’s wax (which I happen to have small buckets of) both of which are very benign, Shiver. There’s also a few oils that have emulsifying properties, but I think they were in the Butter, not the Oil recipe. I’ll have to wade through the mountains of print-outs again. Wonder if the 99.7% pure DMSO would have the same problem?

Sparky what concentrate did you use?

Because it is water base it will not mix with oil, I asked Dr. Jacob if there is any alternative he said he don’t have any.

This is the e-mail I received from Jacob Lab:

Contact Dr. Stanley Jacob at 503-494-8474 about this question. The best time to reach him is Mon-Fri 9AM to 2PM Pacific Time.

In health,
Jeff Jacob
Jacob Lab

Two alternatives, an emulsifier or DMSO that’s not in a water base. I’ve seen 99.x% pure on Ebay and the like, too bad Jacobs doesn’t sell it in anything greater than 70%, I’d rather get my stuff from them than Ebay.

I’m surprised Jacob didn’t recommend his DMSO Dusa SAL Topical Gel which already comes complete with an emulsifier (Polysorbate 20)… then again, maybe he doesn’t want folks using his baby to pull hippie-type oils into their penises. :)

Eagerly awaiting Sparky’s results. ;)