Fulcrum hand stretching question

Even though I have been doing PE for many years now I have recently started doing more hand stretching as part of my routine.

I did do a bit of random stretching in the shower before I discovered Thunders and what PE was about but my early serious PE was using an extender which gave me length gains. At that time I found I could do extender stretching but really did not get a proper ‘grip’ on hand stretching. I then largely moved on to pumping although I still do extending when time permits. I found pumping gave me real girth gains but probably more importantly improved EQ. I am nearly 72 years old.

My pumping nearly always includes using a silicone sleeve which covers my shaft but not my glans. I now have a glans that is slightly mushroomed (ie larger cross- section than my shaft. Also I have found my shaft to be a bit more stretchable after pumping (using warm water), So I started doing hand stretches immediately after a pumping routine initially to reduce any fluid build up from pumping which any was not severe because of the silicone pumping sleeve.

Because of my now larger glans and the post pumping stretchiness I could now get a much better grip behind the head and a real stretch without much difficulty. The stretch I instinctively found to work best is what I believe is called a two hand fulcrum stretch whereby I use two fingers of one hand to provide the fulcrum and then grip behind the head with the other hand. I was initially stretching in 4 directions 0 o’clock (pulling the head straight up while pulling the fulcrum straight down) , then 3 o’clock, then 6 o’clock (pulling the head straight down and fulcrum straight up) and finally up. Usually I repeat this cycle a number of times and also now do in the shower after a warm up. I change hands when doing the last two and pull hard on both arms while stretching. Believe I am stretching the ligs as well as the tunica.

Once I discovered this is a form of fulcrum stretching I did a search on Thunders and found a number related points. In summary:

Wantsmore did something similar using golf weights rather than just fingers.
Bennett8 I believe did something similar to my two hand approach in this 2-inch Growth Comparative Pictures thread
Marinera advised the upward stretch (eg at the 0 o’Clock) will give little or no gains, because the ventral side of the penis is not covered by longitudinal TA

and finally Wadzilla cautioned you have to careful to balance the stretches so you do not get unwanted curvature
{The above is a summary based on a quick reading of relevant post and may contain some inaccuracies}

I have found the upward stretch the most difficult and probably the least rewarding based on Marinera’s comment so have stopped doing it. I believe the sideways fulcrum stretches (3 o’ Clock and 9 o’Clock) best work the CC’s are the easiest to do so am thinking of focussing to them.

What do the experts think? Or should I also do the downward stretch?

Can’t help you with your questions.

Just wanted to congratulate you at 72 and still going strong you are a real role model for us all.

Thanks for the kind thoughts but there are a few of us old guys on Thunders. I first started looking at PE when I noticed my dick had gotten smaller, Now got all the losses back and more. Also once I realised the link between penis health (both size and performance) and general fitness (cardio etc) I now am outting more into that and reaping the wider benefits as well.

Hi AustFred - good to see your post - I’m not an expert but I will offer my comments on fulcrum stretches:

I am familiar with Wantsmore’s golf weight method described here:
Using golf weights to stretch- the best fulcrum stretching I’ve EVER done

I think it is a brilliant approach - it makes a lot of sense to me - but I haven’t used it consistently enough to report results.

A couple of modifications:
first warm the collection of golf weights (rings) in warm water and since they are heavy metal they hold the heat nicely;
while laying down start with the first weight and some shea butter for lubrication;
methodically stretch in all directions;
hands can be used to not only PULL but also PRESS the tissue against the ring in a massaging fashion;
add another warm golf weight ring and repeat.

I am concerned that fulcrum stretches might cause injury leading to Peyronie’s disease. Without getting into too much detail about Peyronie’s, a common theory is that bending the penis causes fibrous scar tissue that then results in painful erections and a deformed penis. However, gentle massage is often used to break down fibrous scar tissue so maybe the approach described above mitigates the risk of Peyronie’s - I don’t know for sure.

I use a tub/container to perform side stretches and I can hold the stretch by locking my thumb against the tub, its hard to explain but if you experiment you will see what I mean. It’s a great stretch and it’s the stretch that gives me my biggest stretched length.

Mike

I appreciate the reply

Firstly Wantsmore. I got some of those plastic coated golf weights some time ago and tried usin them as an ADS sort of thing. I also read Wantsmore ost and tried his stretching technique. Rather than heat the golf weights I used a small haet pad on my unit before stretching. Think I got some benefit from this stretch but no measurable gains.

It was Wantsmore’s golf weight fulcrum stretches that gave be the idea of the two hand fulcrum stretch. I found my penis was more stretchy after a pumping session using warm water and just thought I would try it using my second hand rather than the golfweight and found it worked just as well without the extra complication of the golf weight. For some reason I found this sort of stretch easier to do than a normal hand stretch.

>while laying down start with the first weight and some shea butter for lubrication

Have never found the need for lubrication either using the golf weight or the second hand by itself.

>methodically stretch in all directions

I was doing this but found the upward stretch (0 o’Clock) the hardest. I cannot pull as effectively upwards as sideways or downward and not sure putting pressure on the dorsal vein is such a good idea. Also Marinera wrote that he thought this direction would be very effective.
I now pull sideways in both directions swapping hands as well as downards in a classic fulcrum stretch as used in hanging.

>I am concerned that fulcrum stretches might cause injury leading to Peyronie’s disease.

That is a valid concern. Wadzilla raised the issue saying his curve got worse after fulcrum stretching. On the other hand Bennett8 got great gains from what I understand was no more than two hand fulcrum stretches and did not get any curving (Peyronie) from it. I believe you need to make sure your side way stretches are equivalent in both length and force to prevent Peyronie’s and if you start noting a curve in one direction concentrate in the other direction to counter it.

Thats my thought on it but am keen to hear what others think.

Muckl3, not sure what you mean by a tub? I assume the tub acts a fulcrum with your penis wrapped over its circumference like when hanging and your thumb as a sort of ratchet to help maintain the force in the second hand? Or am I way out?
Regards
Austfred