Go ask Alice (Part 1)

:wtf: Surely what is strange is not how the other sheep react when the little sheepie strays away, but when the little sheepie who strays declares with grandeur, ‘I have seen the true way’ and then doesn’t tell the other little sheepies what he’s on about.

I’m always interested in hearing about experiences and wisdoms from great gainers. Of course I also realize the need to personalize routines but there may be common factors that are good to bring forward and discuss. Hearing about your routine would not harm anything, Alice H, I agree with kundun among others.

Some people having good gains use edging as a technique to get maximum engorgement. Combined with manual or assisted clamping / squeezing, with great caution and control of their well-conditioned units, it seems to give good results. Intrigued by their successes I have incorporated this as an element in my own routine, very carefully of course and combined with heat which is another factor I see as common among good gainers.

The point is that edging is very similar to masturbation, sometimes you go over the edge and it becomes the same in effect. One difference, though: I can continue after the ‘mistake’ with almost full erection, and after a couple of minutes it is like the mistake never happened. I don’t see the bad effects you see. For me, masturbating/edging is an essential PE exercise not only for the gains I hope to see but also because of the incredible control it gives when actually having sex.

In order to learn more I would like to hear details about why you think edging would be bad for PE in general, and/or your PE in particular.

I think edging is great, did I miss something?

Carry on

Yes. Anyway, congrats to your great results!

Interesting thread. I am kind of confused about the point of this thread though as you came on here and spouted off about how 5” gains are possible and some other stuff like “inner light”. Now I have no problem with a person thinking outside of the box but when you basically brag about something like it’s the next big thing and then don’t say what it is that seems kind of rude, but you can do whatever you want as this is a virtual community and there will obviously be no repercutions. I however think it would be appropiate to state your starting stats, even if you have to make approxiamations, and then post your current stats. Also stating your routine and how it has evolved would be nice too. But without those basic things I guess your post is otherwise pointless besides listening to your intuition and maybe reconsidering erect exercises/stretches.

Once again, a five inch gain is highly possible to an individual with the right frame of mind, I deciphered Inner light earlier as intuition. I do not brag about nothing and am not trying to be rude with anyone. This is NOT the next big thing, it is very basic information collected by only my experiences. When inches on a ruler dictate a member’s desire and honesty level here it will be a sad day, it has been tried before and works well briefly. My routine and approach is imagination induced and changes from day to day, I try to do brief intense 10 -20 minute sessions 5 and 6 times a day every day,as long as everything is in order.

I’m glad I at least dragged you out of the lurking world to communicate, my stats are a private matter.

I forgot about this site for about a year or so after joining and I lurked because I would rather read and learn then start dumb threads and ask newbie questions.

Anyways slowly but surely your starting to tell us about your routine which is a good thing. Why don’t you keep a log of the next week or longer of what you did and why you did whatever you chose to do as a way of helping everyone here understand your selection of exercises/stretches and maybe let us get a grasp of your thought process as it pertains to PE. I really think you may have a good idea as far as PE goes but if you don’t let us “in” nobody will ever know for sure.

And if you don’t want to post your stats that’s fine but I don’t see the big deal as it’s completely anonymous and lots of members post their stats everyday without fear of anything. Seriously what’s the worst that could happen? The worst scenario I can come up with is that someone may not believe you and they may say your a liar but you will not be affected by this in any way as it’s your penis and you know how big it is so someone else’s opinion should have no consequence to you.

Also I’d be curious to know what your approxiamate gains were per month over the time period since you started if you have them recorded.

Considering I know of no one that claims to have gained 5 inches. How can you justify such a statement? Most guys here gain two to three inches at the most. In fact correct me if I’m wrong, but pay sites with their outrageous claims don’t claim you’ll gain 5 inches. So according to your own words you are now sporting a BPEL 10.5 and ? Girth. Pretty impressive.

Not sure what that means. Seem like a pretty big thing, pretty darn big claim to make. 5 inches is bigger than allot of guys starting out. 5 inches is around 95% increase for you. If only us sheep could somehow obtain this basic knowledge. We all could have 10 inch wangs.

Not sure what your saying here as well. Is this a confession?

I wanted to make sure you didn’t feel you were being taken out of context.

Maybe some clarification is in order. You have no exercises you want to share. You have no method to speak of, other than your own experiences which are private. All we really got from you is high erection level, intuition, and use logic. Very vague, I would think you would have more specifics than this.

Deadeye,

He merely said that he thinks it’s POSSIBLE to gain 5” with right frame of mind. Frankly, even if I don’t totally support his choice of methods in this thread, I’d like to think anything is possible with enough time and dedication. I think that none of us here have even PE’ed long enough to even get a realistic shot at something as big as a 5” gain. Mayby 5 years from now? Who knows… Don’t let your mind limit your chances at it, if that’s what you desire.

I don’t take any offense to AH’s statements, sometimes a radical change in thinking is needed in order to make progress. Part of Alices success stems from being incredibly consistent with his routine. Even if the routine is constantly changing, he’s still doing it 5-6 times a day. At that level, you’d be conditioned enough to do 100% erect exercises.

There is some wisdom to be said in not masturbating and exercising with a rejuventated penis, although for me that would be a giant hurdle to overcome. After about the 5-6 day mark I want to bed every woman in sight, it is incredibly hard for me to control my urges. I’ve made many attempts in the past when I used to be a Christian. The longest I’ve ever gone from abstaining was 2 weeks, and at that point I’d cum from laughing or something. ( no orgasm, just leaking fluid due to pressure). Not only that but every single thought I have would be sex, sex, sex. I wouldn’t even think about anything else until I got the baby batter out. When you said you climbed mountains just from abstinence, you were not joking Alice.

Perhaps you’ve already stated your routine to the level of detail that was needed and we missed it. Perhaps not. Maybe all thats needed are the basic foundations of stretching and jelquing with an energized penis that hasn’t been exhausted from masturbating, and having the drive to maintain a multi-step workout throughout the day, every day. Perhaps where so many fail is that they simply do not put in the effort required, the key components lost are consistency and intensity. If I can gain one thing from this thread, I would ask how you are able to withhold from masturbating for a few weeks? Perhpas it is my mind telling me this is a monumental task, but my body eagerly agrees with it :)

-Peace

AH,
Without contributing anything concrete, this thread will die fast.

You also backed off from many of the things you did say- inner light = intuition, Masturbation doesnt physically prevent gains, just takes up time, 100% erect PE may not work for some..

Anyone can spout off motivational feel-good speech without giving the practical details that make all the difference. Want to hear some?

You have to believe in yourself. Believing in yourself is the key to gains.
Never give up. Persistence WILL yield results. No man ever climbed Everest in a day.
Be smart about PE, longer workouts are not necessarily better. Focus on what works best for you.
Do not touch your penis with desire or lust in your heart- he who indulges in THAT onanistic sin shall be eternally cursed with a small penis.
And lastly, follow the light.. FOLLOW THE LIGHT…

I’m saying all this mainly because I think the kind of advice you started the thread with doesn’t really help anyone. If anything, vague metaphors without instruction or details or stats is as harmful and discouraging to newbies as anything.

Sorry if this sounds harsh. I come to these boards hoping everytime I might learn some new exercise or technique or routine that will help me break out of my plateau. Hearing people make claims of huge gains without sharing any of their secrets or specifics is very frustrating to say the least.

This thread is already four pages long and I’ve yet to see a pic of these remarkable gains.

This appears to be two different sentences. Your stats on an anonymous web-site couldn’t really get much more private, by the way.
That is, of course, your choice, but you have admit: to hint at the kind of gains you may or may not have made without anything to pin it on…

I’m with deadeye on this one, and that has happened less and less lately (so when it does happen I feel the need to point it out).

Lots of weird, half-stated assertions, which, at best, leaves one scratching one’s head.

I’m also not sure what your saying here.

The only way to verify any kind of gain is by inches on a ruler. Obviously this has been tried before and it works, period. It just works best.
As to your honesty level, we have no evidence of it. We barely have evidence of what you’re talking about.

That must be your plan - you’re trying to drive us all mad.

No more Mr. Nice Guy, Hooper. Come up with something concrete.

I agree completely, I thought this was the third thread like that I have seen in the last weeks, great claims then nothing to show. I was wrong. Reviewing what AH actually said he only claims that once he perceived himself as having a small cock in the beginning (supported by measurements) and now he perceives himself as having a huge cock. Also, he claims that he cured his premature ejaculation. If we had anticipated that AH wanted to remain vague and mystical about the nature of the gains and his methods, this thread would have stopped after a couple of cheerful posts at page one.

:confused: This isn’t about me making any size claims.