Go ask Alice (Part 1)

Then, please, tell us what it is about.

It’s about asking Alice to hurry up and get onto part two.

Sure, Have a positive attitude out of this world, never lose faith that you can accomplish your goal no matter how high. Donald Trump did not check in with the guys at the coffee shop to see if he could make a little money, Ronald Reagan did not check the polls or seek his advisor’s opinions when he told Gorbachev to “tear down this wall”, Think BIG.

Gambling your PE outcome by what all these other guys accomplish is self limiting. You don’t really know how much heart and soul, sweat, and drive we have, you only see what we write about.

You surely can’t believe that all these registered members are doing the same old shit over and over and over. The majority of the active posts are ideas that are applauded by the general consensus here, it is simple fucking human nature to NOT come out of a comfy foxhole and take heavy gun fire, hence you see the eye brows raised when I write what I did.

Mr. Werner Ashford in his post about the techniques he uses is the kind of sharing and openness I like to see. Mr. Ashford I salute you for putting on a helmet and flap jacket for the sake of only trying to share an experience you hold dear.

If you only want to gain a couple of inches, I am not talking to you. Anyone can gain 2 inches with what is provided here, it is completely safe, time tested, and proven over and over and over.

If you desire more than that, you will have to think differently. You will have to re-examine your thoughts on the risk/reward relationship we ALL encounter. I am NEVER going to spoon feed anyone here what exercises I do, and it is no ones business what gains I have made. Imagination, experimentation, and desire have driven my efforts, what about you?

Here, this is for everyone that doesn’t get the most critical aspect. Thanks, Base

Then what’s it about Alice? Because it aint about any method or technique either.

Why are you telling this if you have no interest in sharing your experiences or even your results? You bring up Werner Ashford, good example of a guy that actually tries to explain what he experiences and how it can be replicated by anyone that wishes to do so if he puts his mind to it. That I have no reason not to believe, although I have not personally tested the ideas. If I tested it and run into difficulties, he seems very interested in helping me out.

Why would anyone want to experience the mystical thing you speak of as “more than a couple of inches” if you don’t try to tell what it is?

Hm, I don’t know about all of the other guys that read this 4 page thread. I hoped to find more practical advice on the topic.

AH, not meaning to be offensive, I have only read “no-brainer” statements towards your contributions.
“Think out of the box!”, “Enlight yourself” is like telling somebody who went financially broke: “make more money, dude !”.

So, my question is, if we are NOT thinking out of the box. What are the things we are not considering in order to think out the box ?

What are we doing in a nutshell:
- We’re stretching ligs + tunica either by hanging, manual stretching or devices.
- Penis errection levels vary from flaccid to 100% errect
- We do girth work by jelqing, squeezing and many other excersises
- Some use mental excersises to envision penis growth, hypnosis and so on

SO, WHAT IN WORLD DO YOU MEAN WITH: THINK OUT OF THE BOX ???

Should I color my hair, or eat dog food, what is it ???

I thought it would help someone, if you don’t get anything out of it then whoopdy-doo. Some of you guys really love hearing about those results, don’t you? My result is mine, it is an anonymous forum,I take others results with a grain of salt

I’m not going commercial, my results are again, my business. My experiences can only be halfway understood by someone that can abstain from ejaculating long enough to see the rainbow, apparently that is a huge sacrifice for someone to make.

Yeah, Mr. Ashford sure is having a lovely time in his thread, it has went over like a lead balloon. Apparently abstaining and putting your mind to work on your side is difficult business to some.

You will have to do your own self exploration, I don’t have any books or tapes for sale, I’m not Dr. Phil

Again, use your imagination and develop something that is useful for yourself. Please don’t come along and try to “name” the exercise though. Surely you don’t think all these advanced exercises littering up the forum came from an ancient bible of PE.

O.k., I get it. But isn’t that something that everbody already does ???
When PE’ing, everybody tries to find the adequate excercises for one-self ??? If something doesn’t work, so you do different stuff.

I always thought that “listening to yourself” and creating a unique exercise routine that works is what this whole thing is about ? So, where is the news ???

And speaking of the holy bible, what would make my dick gain 5” instead of 1”-2”, the mere fact that YOU preached it ???

Come out of a comfy foxhole?

Why on earth would I do that? Well, maybe just to give her the occasional pearl necklace…

So, this is a motivational thread?
I guess your heart’s in the right place. You’re exhorting us all not just to think, but think BIG. Or outside the box. Or the foxhole. Or wherever.
Maybe your message could be streamlined by the comparison of IBM vs. Apple: Think & Think Different.

So okay, great. But it’s a little presumptuous to assume that we’re all mindless drones doing one ‘safe’ routine over and over again.

Private time with Mr. Happy is probably very different than the same with Wadzilla (in a storage locker or not), than it is for you, or deadeye, or any number of the many thousands who are here.

You like Werner; far out. I’ve read his stuff and he’s a little over-the-top in his presentation for my taste, and Dr. Lin makes me want to take shower to get some of that snake oil off me — and yet I have picked up some things from Werner. Werner may not be for everyone, but he is clear about what he is about. And that makes his contribution valuable.

And as for “Gambling your PE outcome by what all these other guys accomplish” being “self limiting”… I suppose that could be true in one view, but the whole purpose of a forum is information sharing and discussion. If you peruse these threads with any degree of comprehension, it would seem obvious (to me anyway) that people are constantly coming up with new ideas and sharing them. Variations on a few set themes, sure; but many variations. The penis is durable organ, but there again are issues of safety - not to mention comfort. Should all of us be re-inventing the wheel, so as not to follow the herd (sorry mbuc)? Why not borrow from this one or that one? I think that’s what most of us do.

The reason so many of us have been hammering you is that a generalized sentiment is going to be of limited help to anyone getting where they are going. Specifics are key (sorry deadeye), they ground us in something we can evaluate. We can then decide to possibly try it… or not. So many of us thought you were hinting at something concrete and just being coy about it. That makes people crazy.

For example: I happen to agree with you about ejaculating. The Taoist’s recommend training yourself to ‘save the seed’ and it’s true the chemistry inside the penis changes when you come. This is a concrete subject that people can grapple with. If you are too shy to share other specifics, don’t allude to them. Y’know?
Who wants to almost discuss something? If you feel it’s private, which is your right, don’t bring it up or allude to it. We’ll all be much nicer about giving you your space in that event.

Perhaps it’s obvious to point out that all of us are here because we’re ‘thinking big’ - isn’t that the very point of the exercise? Or exercises?

Okay, schools out.

A textbook example of why you probably will not receive not anything but mediocre gains, if that. You can only get what your mind sees, and the mere attitude you just demonstrated clearly doesn’t work in successful PE efforts. The dick I see when I work on it is the dick I will have in reasonable time, I don’t get bogged down with the trivial shit too much. I see my goal between my legs, how about you? I’m not stuck in the present by sticking a ruler to my dick today, I’m focused in the future, what about you?

I’m not a preacher, just a fellow that knows that I will get what I am after.

I just read this thread and I have to say that most of the people just don’t seem to understand what Alice is trying to say. Base and a couple others seem to get it but others seem to be just throwing rocks at the hornets’ nest.

I think it is disrespectful to keep badgering Alice for his routine and stats when he has politely stated that he chooses not to post them.

Alice is doing things that he has analyzed to be effective for him. Each person’s body may respond differently to PE. Learn to listen to how YOUR body responds to exercise to see if you should increase or decrease your workout. This will allow your workout to evolve and improve.

Think for yourself. Don’t let other people’s success/failure limit YOUR success. Let others’ experiences guide you and then take that information and build on it. Lemmings can never soar like eagles.

For years many pro athletes have put aside sexual release before a sporting event. How exactly masturbation affects PE, I don’t know. That is a choice each of us has to make as part of our workouts. Like all aspects of PE, listen to how your body responds and choose if you want to do it or not.

A wise man once said “do good things.” Rock on Alice!
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This seems extraordinarily bitchy and judgmental to me.

We all have different approaches. Don’t set yours up as superior or you will be very unpopular.

You got something that’s working for you and an attitude about it that you’re happy with - great.
But don’t trash someone else and insinuate their gains are doomed to mediocrity. That’s just not nice.
It doesn’t further the discussion. stein like many of us was looking for something concrete….
Which you seemed to promise.

So far you said something about a positive mental outlook (nothing new), thinking outside the box (again, nothing so new), and not ejaculating (and, as the Taoists have been espousing this for longer the western recorded calendar, again nothing new).
I’m sure all of it is well meant, but… Can you understand why people are trying to pin you down?

A lot of us here know what we’re after - let’s try to help each other toward that without taking pot shots…

Yes, I understand but it is like talking to someone about fasting that has never missed a meal in his life. Would you talk PE with your boss at work or neighbor?

I haven’t came up with shit that is “groundbreaking”, trust me when I say that I don’t feel I have been “hammered’ at all. To hammer someone you would have to at least remotely understand or try for yourself.

You have obviously got an internet connection, go do the research on your own.