Help Wanted Determining the Chronology of Online Free PE

When did Tom start his site? I vaguely recall seeing a site, circa 1996 or 97, that I later figured must have been his. It was a guy documenting his hanging experience who sounded credible. He wasn’t selling anything. I’m guessing it was Tom. Were there any others back then?

Can anyone offer more detailed info about the timeline of Tom’s site or any other beginnings of free PE on the net?

I don’t know about online FREE PE, but I do have a document from 1995 and some from 96 and 97 I believe that you would pay for to get access. The earlisest doc I have from 1995 (this actually must have been a book that was scanned into a PDF file) is called Zenno Jojido (a Japanese form of penis enlargement). In it it tells a bunch of wacky stories of a travler and his friends who go around the globe looking for the secrets to penis enlargement and then they go on to explain a primitive form of jelqing which they call milking, towel raises and some very primitive stretching excersizes to lengthen the ligs, as well as some BC/IC/PC muscle excersizes like kegels but they call them PC muscle excersizes (this might be why we were so confused as to what was really going on when we were excersizing our male BC muscles as WestLA clarified here and everyone used the PC terminology for kegels, I still think there is a lot more information we could learn about kegels and how they relate to PE, like how blasters and stretching works for instance). This document in many ways seems like the beginning of the modern PE movement. We just expanded on all this primitive basic knowledge and excersizes and BIB and others here have brought PE far foward. I also believe there is much more for us to learn to speed gains and know exactly what we are doing… I don’t know if I can post this or any of these other docs but if you guys wanted I don’t think anyone who wrote those docs really care anymore what happens to there information since we are now far more knowledgable in PE then that book/doc can expose and the PE information out now is for free. Interesting stuff…

Classic Site - Tom Hubbard

Duh, I should have looked at the archive. 1997 for Tom. When in 1997? Early, late?

Lovemachine, your 95-97 pay info is interesting in the sense that it shows how little knowledge there was back then.

Anyone else? Surely we have a few old-timer lurkers here. If you don’t want to post in public feel free to PM me.

Wheres old Tom now?

Can someone tell us about the forums before the EZ Board forum, if there were any? Or even how the EZ board forum came about? Any history about it or prior forums, sites, etc?

For reference, I came into the PE scene in late 2001 and am mostly familiar with what has transpired since. I’m interested in the history of free PE on the Internet before that.

I don’t remember what it was called but I found a link to Tom’s site at a pumping forum I frequented back in the summer of 98’. I don’t know if that forum predated Tom’s.

The wayback machine has Tom’s original forum on it. One Main page, maybe 400 posts tops. They also have a very small partial of the forum before EZboard. Hard to navigate through, some links work, some don’t. The Big A is kicking in now as I can’t even remember the guy’s name that set it up.

In 96’ I read Gary Griffin’s (sp) books on penis enlargement. According to those books, pumping and jelq had been around for awhile.

Pumping goes way back.

10 years. Fuck, I think I will kill myself.

I got some of his books about the same time PS.

How did I find those. Thats right, I found an ad at the back of a local paper. I ordered them through Kaplan pumping.

Was that pumping forum Newart PS?

I got the Griffin info from a Hustler I think, not positive though.

Well, that’s a step in the right direction. I didn’t know Tom even had a forum. Where, to the best of your knowledge, did free online PE forums begin?

How did pay forums fit into the scheme? I’m looking for dates to put all this in perspective.

Tom was free forum #1 from what I know. Paysite forums were BigPenis started late 99, Reece’s, no idea when but I think he was the first paysite to have a forum. And then that guy from Florida, can’t remember his name (maybe Michael Allen, not sure though), but his paysite forum always sucked. In fact every third post on the forum told him that it sucked. This guy claimed some ridiculous number of members, about three or four a week on the forum though.

I think it was Newart. If I saw it, I would know.

Hobby,

If Newart is the forum I am thinking of, I think it was probably the first.

Edit: Thunder’s probably correct about Hubbard’s being the first.

If you guys want a window into just how fucked I am, I started researching pumps in the back of dirty magazine at the tender age of 12.