Is It In Yet????

Thankfully, I’ve never been told I have a small dick or been asked “Is it in yet?”. A Mexican girl once told me “Wow, I didn’t know white boys were this big! Next time I see a white boy, I’m going to be like what’s up!” . That was pre-PE and I was 7BPEL/4.5 girth back then.. I still felt small. No matter how many girls said I was a good size.. I never felt long enough and definitely not thick enough. I hated when girls would show how big their boyfriends were with an “OK” sign.

I think it started when I was little. I always used to hang out with older people and something they said probably made me insecure about my size.. I was always scared to have sex because I didn’t know if I was a good size. Eventually when the time came to have sex, I got over the fear of a girl seeing it and 5 years later I just want to be the biggest they’ve ever had.

Some good stories here.

My wake-up call was the transition between a girl (Lets call her "CRS") I was sorta seeing, into a new girlfriend (and current girlfriend) (Let’s call her "KM") who I love dearly.

This girl CRS I saw for about 4 weeks. I was never really into it, but she really liked me. Eventually I had to break the news that I want to stop hooking up because I wasn’t really feeling it. So I did that, and although disappointed, she handled it well.
2 weeks later I had sex with her when I was drunk and it wasn’t much fun. I couldn’t’ get a full hard on and we eventually stopped mid-way. She virtually made no reactions and I was sorta questioning my abilities over it.
What woke me up though, was about another week or 2 after THAT, we were chatting over the internet and she started teasing my for having a small dick. This girl was head over heels for me, but I didn’t like her and I was seeing a new girl (KM), so it was more of a self-defense action for her to bring me down, rather than actually meaning that I have a small penis. But if I had a big dick, she wouldn’t be saying it. So it stuck in my mind.

Another thing that woke me up was I had sex with a virgin (KM - current girlfriend) and it didn’t hurt her. I know that sounds wrong, but it made me question myself regardless. I was going slow and asked her if she was alright and she said "yeah" in the tone of "of course! Why wouldn’t I be?". Which stuck in mind.

Another thing, and the main thing, that woke me up was a few months later I was having sex with KM, and the condom gradually slipped off (regular sized condom) mid-way through sex, without either of us realizing, and I blew inside of her. We had to go and get the morning after pill the next morning.

These 3 things mixed with underlying fact that I want to get a better reaction out of my girl KM when we’re having sex, made start searching the internet about penis sizes.

I searched "Ideal penis size" in google, and found this page: The Ideal Penis Size - The Penis Size Preference Chart: preferred penis size, penis shape and penis looks. , which, while at the time in denial about size mattering, essentially told me that my current size wouldn’t be satisfying for women. I was shattered. That site has a link to TP on it. I browsed the site with full enthusiasm and eventually started up a routine, and got some decent gains, but had to stop due to lack of privacy.

I was delighted to increase my size, and I got enough size to be comfortable with. But I want more, of course.

i dont belive that chart.

Give this a read when you can jbuck.

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LMFAO that chart is a joke! Someone who owns a penis product site probably made that site no doubt!

Wrong. She might well say it anyway - even if you were quite large.

It’s called button pushing.

Your beginning stats do not indicate a small dick, but one in the average range.

She said it to hurt you, pure and simple. The drunken sex was likely a ploy to get you back. By not getting hard for her she took it personally. She assuaged her self-doubts about her own attractiveness by hitting you were it hurts. Happens all the time.

That site is totally ridiculous. He’s also revised his "ideal size" chart at least once. The first time I saw that site the claim was you needed at least 8" X 6" to satisfy every woman, and if you had anything less she was faking it.

Which basically means most of the world is running on crappy, sub-standard sex, and hardly any women in it are ever enjoying themselves. :whatever:

The chart has since been revised, to bring it somewhat closer to reality.

Thunder's Place is a good find, and it’s cool to make changes and all. It’s also cool to have better function and encourage the health of the unit. Gains are cool, but what’s really good to gain self-confidence and take control of your sexual destiny. I’m all for it.

But just know: your dick wasn’t her problem - it was her bruised ego that was the problem.

This might have been even worse than “is it in yet.” One of my exes told me that she once said to a guy something like “quite teasing me and put it all in.” Unfortunately, the guy was already balls deep. She said alcohol played a factor in this instance, and a couple others that were also moments of verbal faux pas. It loosens the tounge and diminished the senses a bit.

That site is B.S., apparently done by someone with some agenda like pushing a product, or penis humiliation fetish. For some real world data from actual women, and an example of how to control for inaccuracies when asking for measurements, see the thread What is the right size as judged by the experts

When dealing with actual phallic objects, women turn out to have a size preference of about 7 x 5.5, which coincides with many posts by female contributors at this site and other sites such as LPSG with more women members, though there are a few size queens out there as well. There is way too much urban legend about large penis sizes, fueled by general inaccuracy and porn fantasies.

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I have read through this entire thread and the stories on here are absolutely sickening. The amount of cruelty that some women are capable of is astonishing. It’s also remarkable that some of these things have happened to men who are not small, just average. I’m definitely under the average (4.6” EL, 4.3” EG) so I would expect these sorts of things to happen to me. It’s really depressing to see that it’s happened to guys much bigger as well. For what it’s worth, I’m sorry for all of you. Believe me, I understand.

Unfortunatelly we can be very bad to each other sometimes. But the same thing goes both ways; you know how we, guys, talk about girls sometimes.

Penissizedebate makes a hell of a lot of sense in all their lorgical arguments and does debunk the “size doesn’t matter myth” quite competently. The charts might be speculative, but the arguments are spot-on.

Well that’s one opinion.

Mine is that the site is complete and utter BS. Most women don’t care about penis size. That is my experience. Those who do care about it don’t care all that much. The author of that site has psychological problems.

There’s probably a woman somewhere out there with a site called size2debate.com, who argues that all men secretly want and crave a woman who’s a size 2, and that those who accept bigger gals are simply indulging them out of courtesy while they secretly snicker and tell fat jokes behind the girls’ backs. It’s the same mentality, only transferred to the opposite gender.

One time this girl I was banging told me it came out while I was doing her when it didn’t, as I remember I wasn’t fully erect either. After reading some of these posts it’s got to be really devastating to hear some of these things from a woman especially in the heat of the moment. Some of us are just lucky to be born with a decent sized penis and I guess some are not.

Yeah that one hurts it kind of mirrored my wake up call.

That’s a very useful analogy to keep around. I’ve known women with exactly that mentality — refusing to believe guys who tell them they like them as they are, and interpreting all sorts of comments to mean that they’re fat — and it’s exceptionally disturbing and frustrating.

Personally my experience has been that penis size does make a difference to most women, to varying degrees, and that bigger (within reasonable limits) is generally considered better. Likewise, it seems to me that most guys do care about how big a woman’s body is, to varying degrees, and that slimmer is generally preferred (again, within reasonable limits, and in this case within a culture where most of the variation is from “healthy weight” to “morbidly obese”). BUT I think you’re absolutely correct that it’s sad when guys get so into the PE mentality that they refuse to believe a girlfriend who insists that she prefers their current size to their goal size — or even worse, who insists that their current size is already painful.