kegeling and jelqing

I always kegel as I do the standard wet jelq exercise. In the manual and in every explanation on how to do this exercise nobody ever mentions to kegel as you jelq.

I kegel on every wet jelq stoke, and it now seems like the only right way to do this exercise.

Should I limit the amount of times that I kegel? Is kegeling while jelqing standard?

Does anybody not kegel while they do wet jelqs?

Has anybody gained without kegeling while jelqing? It seems like jelqing wouldn’t even work if I didn’t kegel on every stroke.

Just so everybody knows, I haven’t been posting for a while and kind of avoiding this forum, because I lost my girth gain, and it has made me kinda depressed. I am a survivor and my dick is still nice so it is ok, but I need to get back on the winning side of this game. I have only been PMing with a buddy who is helping me by giving me advice on where to go from here.

I haven’t been jelqing that long; a little over three months. Does anybody have anything to say for someone who was doing well and lost it all early in there PE career?

Any replies?

Regarding your loss of some girth gains, does any of the following make sense?

First possibility: I felt gains in girth within a few weeks, and had I stopped my PE work, suddenly, I think rescinded swelling might have occurred. But I have persisted and am now into my third month with continued gains.

Second point, I thought I measured correctly but my girth seemed to go down by the tape though the little trickster seemed thicker than ever by feel. I had just measured incorrectly, originally. Must have. I had to re-evaluate my original girth and I always put a ? Mark after it as I couldn’t stand before the pearly gates and swear on my first measures.

So, try to re-evaluate your measurements. When you lost, was it also a loss in sense of feel as well as a loss by tape measurement? Could it have been swelling going down? Have you gained since starting back your besiege?

I do my overhand OK Jelqing and V-Jelqing but the kegel and anti-kegel work comes before and after. Tomorrow’s showering, I shall try your way.

I never kegel while I jelq, at least for the most part, occasionally I do some kegels but I am not doing hundreds while I jelq. I have had pretty good gains two months in, and I am hoping that I’ll have more to report at the end of the month. I am definetly going to pay attention to this thread because If it helps to be kegeling then shit I got to do that haha.

Good Luck Mr. T just do what Clubber Lang would do and keep at it!

Comrades, I would like to talk about if kegeling and jelqing at the same time are needed to gain well? It seems when I don’t kegel while doing my wet jelqs it isn’t expanding properly.

I want alot of posts because I want to get to the bottom of this. I think I may be getting to much expansion and it could be hindering some gains.

Is it true that sometimes you can be injured and you can’t tell; like no spotting and still a decent to good EQ?

I need to find out were I went wrong. Has anybody else lost all their girth gains early into PE like I did? I started in February with the newbie routine. Within a few weeks I increased the jelqs. I then refined

my jelqing technique by kegeling as I did my wet jelq routine. About a month in I went from 15 minutes to 30 minutes and sometimes I would just jelq for 45 minutes to an hour. I started jelqing Feb 14, 08.

I noticed an 1/8 girth gain around may 25, 08. I started propecia sept. 4, 07 and stopped using it April 4, 08 because I was sick of it and I was possibly hoping for a Pezzi gain (chemical PE). About a week

after quitting propecia I gained another 1/8 of girth. I don’t know if the gain was related to quitting the propecia, but I would like some professional vets on this site to draw a theory. I went from 5.25EG

about to 5.45EG roughly. I enjoyed my gains very much and was very elated and discovered a whole new confidence that I never

experienced and I fucking want it back. So I gained 2/8ths in girth. I like to mention that when I quit propecia my libido seemed extremely high the first two weeks of cessation. So I was enjoying my new

gains and I started going out on the weekends to clubs and I got drunk about 7 times in between the months of April and may of 08; about 8 to 10 drinks per night and I smoked pot about 12 times through

april and may. Alright, so I measured around may 2, and noticed that I lost one 1/8; WTF I said. I took two days off and remeasured and like a miracle I got back the 1/8; this could be proof that stopping the

propecia didn’t cause a temporary gain, because I wasn’t on the propecia at that time wen I remeasured and got the gains back . I continued my routine, and you can say my grip was intense and I would

range from thirty minutes to one hour sessions of wet jelqs and I would also do some horse 440s for like five or ten minutes after the wet jelq session. My schedule was like 3 on and 1 off. So I measured

again a few weeks later and I lost the 1/8th again. I then started jelqing less out of depression; like 2 on and 1 off but my intensity and time and routine remained the same and now I lost the whole enchilada

of 2/8ths. All my work has been for nothing and I am very disappointed. The only reason why I can handle it is because I still have a decent size penis, but it doesn’t compare to those monster cocks that I

desperately want. I just want a ridiculously long fat COCK, what can I say. I don’t need a cock as thick as Ramon’s from bang bros, but I want to pack at least 5.9EG I currently have changed my whole

routine to fifty 10 second wet jelqs with a warm up and a warm down. Oh, I also forgot to mention that I stopped warming down as well, around the

beginning of May when I measured and noticed the loss and took the two days off and regained; so after that I just got lazy and stopped warming down after my jelq session was completed. I don’t know if

this is relevant, but this is something that I did different when I completely lost all my gains.

Comrades and fine sirs, I need you to put your brains together and gather the information that I typed and tell me where the fuck Mr. T with the fucking gold chains went wrong. Sorry if this post is too long

and confusing. I tried to make it as thorough as possible so you guys can see were I went wrong. I guess the zillion dollar question is did this fool over do it? Did Mr. T over train to the point where his phallus

would not grow no more? I’m I a less is more candidate? I guess time will only tell. I need everybody’s opinions on this. I need to know what the fuck to do to get a big thick cock; help Mr. T get his wish and

he will be thankful.

You might have over worked yourself with the horse 440’s. My erection strength has been like crap after starting the horses, so next time I should be more conditioned.

The horse 440s are intense and maybe they possibly did effect my EQ. Maybe my EQ hasn’t been at its best lately. I haven’t got a painfully hard throbber in a long while, besides last night. But before that it has been a while. I was on craigslist. I got the sickest hooker urge and called this 19 year old blonde and asked how much a quick blow job or hand job is, but I changed my mind at the last minute like I always do and decided to just rub one out and go to bed. I have only been with two hookers and do not want to go down that road again.

When I get a whore urge though, I can get really fucking hard; harder than watching porn. God, I am so sick of watching porn.

Thanks for reading my post bori.

I think you can jelq without kegels at the same time and still gain, and gain well.

I don’t think you can get “too much expansion” unless you’re getting it by traumatizing yourself. But then, I’m in the “coax growth out”, not “force growth out” camp of PE.

If you were, how would you know, and what difference would it make? And “injured” covers a broad range. Two guys are in a car accident. One tears a fingernail. The other has a leg ripped off. They’re both “injured”, right?

My guess is yes. It didn’t happen to me, but I recall seeing threads along those lines.

That seems like a lot, T.

Could also be proof that you were overdoing it, and your cock needed the time off to recover.

Not for nothing, Mr. T. You learned something about what does and doesn’t work for you, and you learned something about conditioning your penis and maintaining your EQ.

I’m not sure that you ever HAD those gains in a permanent sense. Part of the reason it’s better to use the ruler as just one measure of your progress is because measurements are imperfect. They can vary.

An eighth of an inch can appear or disappear “like a miracle”, but it’s more likely to be due to more mundane and earthly causes such as natural variation from time to time.

So, your life would be meaningless with, say, 5.85 inches EG?

You can accept the ruler as your gold standard for PE, Mr. T., but a more useful standard might be a functional standard. Is it large enough to provide pleasure to you and who you’re with?

Mr. T., I think you are a candidate for several things.

You are a candidate to stop comparing yourself to porn stars.

You are a candidate to stop worshiping the ruler, and start using the ruler as a useful tool to provide you with useful general information about how you are doing with PE.

You are a candidate for a healthier lifestyle. “I got drunk about 7 times in between the months of April and may of 08; about 8 to 10 drinks per night and I smoked pot about 12 times through”?

I think you are a candidate for “less is more” and some patience. and maybe even a deconditioning break.

And down the road, I think you are a candidate for some other techniques and strategies, but not until after you’ve mastered yourself and your current range of techniques,

Thanks Lampwick, this helps me immensely. Well written; you answered all my questions and I appreciate that. I was actually contemplating a deconditioning break, but I don’t know if I should take one or not.

I have toned it down to every other day sessions. And I took this Thursday and Friday off, and I am thinking about taking today off and maybe the whole weekend, to just heal if I need to. I am not sure if a need to take a few weeks off. Would I make that decision based on my EQ?

I do a kegel between nearly every jelq rep. I do my jelqs relatively slowly, aiming for 5 or longer second reps. I strive for the fullest possible expansion on every repetition, hence the jelq to finish it off just before I start.

I do kegels to help get better EQ and they work well.

Better EQ gives me a larger penis.

I also do kegels when I jelq.

I have not seen any negative effects when doing them together. I would think they would help and not hurt.

You might take a break and get your EQ back up. You will probably get those gains right back.

Good luck.

I get too erect if I kegel while jelqing, so I usually avoid that, unfortunately.