LOT test, movement of head and ligs.

Okay. What if your LOT is 6 o’clock. Do you really think it’s a waste to keep stretching downwards? Because even if the ligs are no longer able to lengthen any further, wouldn’t you still be stretching something? I also have this nagging feeling that my LOT has always been 6 o’clock. Now if you’re theory is correct, then that’s not possible right? Isn’t it just natural to lose tugback stretching straight downwards? I wish I could have participated in the experiment before I started any kind of PE, then I’d know for sure.

Prickle,

>Okay. What if your LOT is 6 o’clock. Do you really think it’s a waste to keep stretching downwards? Because even if the ligs are no longer able to lengthen any further, wouldn’t you still be stretching something?<

I do not think it would be a complete waste, simply less efficient. If you are stretching down, and engaging the ligs, with a low LOT, and no potential for gains from lig stretch, the the stress taken by the ligs will naturally detract from or eliminate the stress imposed on the inner tunica. IOW, you could possibly consistantly stretch at an angle that would not give any gains from lig stretch, and yet not impact the inner tunica at all. Of course, you would still be stretching the outer tunica. Sabe?

>I also have this nagging feeling that my LOT has always been 6 o’clock. Now if you’re theory is correct, then that’s not possible right?<

Sure it is. You can be born that way. Many guys have naturally low LOTs.

>Isn’t it just natural to lose tugback stretching straight downwards?<

Sure. For every single guy, at some point the ligs engage, and take the stress. It is the point that the ligs engage that is important.

Bigger

Bib,

So if I am doing the “test” right and reading the posts correctly I have a loss of pullback at approx. 9:00. What does this mean I need to do in conjuction to my pumping & jeleqing routine?

I usually jeleq straight out at 9:00, should I change the angle for better results? When sitting in a chair should I be jeleqing towards the ceiling or towards the floor? Other recommended stretches?

Would putting downward pressure on my tube when pumped be a good idea?

mr e,

>So if I am doing the “test” right and reading the posts correctly I have a loss of pullback at approx. 9:00. What does this mean I need to do in conjuction to my pumping & jeleqing routine?<

It means you have potential for gains from lig stretch, and should be stretching or hanging at an angle below your LOT.

>I usually jeleq straight out at 9:00, should I change the angle for better results?<

Yes, below your LOT.

>When sitting in a chair should I be jeleqing towards the ceiling or towards the floor? Other recommended stretches? <

I don’t know about jelqing, but you should stretch or hang at the lower angles. The most intense lower angle is BTC. But it might take you a while to work down to this angle.

>Would putting downward pressure on my tube when pumped be a good idea?<

I have no idea. I have never pumped before.

Bigger

BIB— BTC? Please explain.

BTC = Between the Cheeks.

Bigger

A more advanced position is BTC (Between The Cheeks). This position requires being semi-reclined with the legs elevated. The penis is pulled downwards between the legs (cheeks) enabling the weight to target the ligaments precisely. This position needs to be gradually worked up to.

Would the following generalization be correct?

GROWERS have higher LOT; more embedded penis; easier lig gainers.

SHOWERS have lower LOT; less embedded penis; little lig gain.

bud,

I do not know if there would be any corellation or not. But on the surface, I doubt it. Whether you are a grower or shower is determined by the quantity of elastin fiber within the collagenous matrix of the shaft. That determines the degree of pullback when flaccid.

The position of loss of tugback directly relates to the tightness of the ligs, and the position of the attachment points on the pubic bone and tunica.

Bigger

Do you think that there is anything wrong with mixing tunica stretches and lig stretchs with a LOT of 8:00?

Or do you think it’s best to just concentrate on one type?

Cheers,
Cas

cascade,

Personally, I always tried to concentrate on one angle to complete fatigue, and then switch. I would think about what I was attempting to do, where the most potential lay, and hang at that angle (primary angle) until I could not take any more. Then, I would switch to a secondary angle for the rest of the day.

For instance, at the beginning of my hanging career, I hung mainly BTC. When my ligs would totally fatigue, I would move the hanging angle up to SO, taking stress from the ligs and moving to the tunica.

I found that each change of approximately 30 degrees of hang angle would stress different structures. And while I could be totally fatigued in one area, I could easily continue to hang in another area.

Bigger

Thanks for the reply Bib but how could i apply this theroy to a DLD Bundle Blaster session?

Mabye ligs for a while and switch to tunica after a few months, or mix both into each session?

Cheers,
Cas

cascade,

>Thanks for the reply Bib but how could i apply this theroy to a DLD Bundle Blaster session?<

I do not really know. I am not familiar with what you are trying to do there.

>Mabye ligs for a while and switch to tunica after a few months, or mix both into each session? <

Yes, with an LOT of 8, you could hit the ligs for a while, constantly checking your LOT over time. Then, if your LOT drops to 7 or lower, switch to tunica type stretches.

Another way to look at it is the quality of the stretches. Considering an LOT of 8, if you are doing BTC stretches, and after a while you simply do not feel the work, then switch to the upper angles.

Bigger

Bib, according to your latest , my lot is between 8:00 and 9:00, this means that to continue working the ligs I must I work at or below 8:00 to hit them, is the same true for tunica, above 8:00 hits primarily the tunica. i can’t say what my lot was originally as this theory came along after PE was started. I know that I may still have at least 1/2 or more growth potential out of my ligs at this point. as far as tunica stretch is concerned, any idea of the potential of growth with it.

do you think that targeting the 8:00 area for stretching would be effective or counterproductive so that both tunica and ligs are hit at the same time.