"Permanent" gain/"Temporary" gain

Whether or not PE results in permanent gain is a perennial theme at Thunders, among newcomers especially.

Perhaps if we Vets post here in this thread about what we have gained and now long we’ve kept it, no matter our method, the frequency of this question can be reduced just a bit.

I’ll start with my own report. I hope others will chime in.

Started PE at 6.00 x 5.75. Gained to a peak of 8.39 x 6.50, then I quit active PE. Went on “maintenance”, about which I was very, very lazy. Too lazy. I mean, really slovenly. I seldom worked out. In six months I was down to 7.50 x 6.25, still respectable in my ego view, so I remained lazy. Months later, no change except maybe a slight drop in girth but still above 6.0. Then I began worrying about my Thunder’s Platinum Card (8 X 6) renewal and worked to get to 8 L again. Very easy. A couple weeks of 3 days/week workouts and I was at 8.0 L again. No change in girth; did no girth exercises. Didn’t want more girth. I’ve learned that girth is difficult for me to lose once I have cemented it. Length disappears faster, but only up to a point. I have never dropped below 7.50, which is 1.50 inches longer than when I started PE. To me, that 7.5 is permanent.

Now, getting a little more motivated about my lazy maintenence program, I remain at 8.0 L with girth fluctuating between 6.25 and 6.50, depending on the turn-on factor. Do I care about being 7.5 or 8.0 L? Only to keep my Platinum card. I don’t see any difference in sex between those lengths. The rest is about vanity.

I do, though, think I have made permanent gains.

PLATINUM CARD?

Must be some inside joke lol…

It’s an earlier days thing. There were so many posts about peoples’ perfect goal being 8 x 6 that that became a point of humor in itself. BTW, Thunder does not charge either interest or annual fees for the card. You do it the old fashioned way. You earn it.

Good post.

Alright so break it down for me, What did you find was the absolute LEAST you had to do to maintain gains, workout wise. What were the days on/off and intensity levels. How did these differ from when you were just trying to grow?

Maintenance is another subject, d-sut. I’ll do that separately.

It does pretty much inter-twine with this subject, people will be asking.

They will want to know what the difference was between you being “lazy”, and what you had to change to spark up the gains again. Not necessarily a long post with your exact routine, but just things like longer stretches etc will suffice.

I’ll do that in another thread. Some people in PMs have asked that I update my stats at the Data Site - lo-nnnnng time since I did that, and have also asked about Maintenance in general. “Maintenance” is a special issue.

I started at about 6.25BP x 4.9 and got all the way to 7.5x5.375 with a few months of off and on piddling and then 21 weeks of intensive jelq and squeeze based workouts. That was 4 years ago. I did some maintenance and slacked off, tried many times to get back on the wagon and got lazy or busy. My last measurement a few months back was 7x5, and that was after 2 years of doing pretty much nothing.

I haven’t been doing daily PE since then but I do some light stretching and dry jelqs several time during the week to keep me “conditioned” for the times when I can do some heavy PE. I’m focusing more on weight loss and body exercise primarily, my penis is great compared to the rest of my body :) I’ll switch my primary focus back to PE after 25 more pounds come off. Hopefully I’ll regain what I lost and hit that 8” mark.

Size, I think your current program (losing lbs) is way more important than re-gaining .375 of girth.

Thanks very much for the feedback. With virtually no workouts, you lost a half inch of L, but kept .75 inch gain of L. We can call that part a permanent gain, yes?

I took a year and a half break from PE after gaining 1” in both length and girth. I lost .25” in length and .5” in girth.

I’ve been back PE’ing for the past month and I have been gaining faster than I did when I started. It might be like weightlifting in that once you’ve hit a certain point, it doesn’t take long to get back to it after a long break.