Plateau and cemented gains

Short intro:
Been PE:ing since 2008 and initially got good gains. Within a year, I got 1” length gains and about 0.5”, not bad at all. Then I struggled for another year or so and got some minor gains but as soon as I didn’t PE (dedicated PE!), the gains sank back a bit. So, I decided to take a conditional break as a test and was almost chocked how far back I got. I lost about 0.7” length and about 0.3” in girth in two months. I started off again and pretty quickly got back most of it.

I started with the newbie routine and have then tried V-stretch/A-stretch, clamping, cock-ring, normal stretching and of course jelqing. Never tried pumping or hanging.

I always thought that gains were more or less permanent. Maybe I could loose 0.2”-0.3” in length but not as much as I did. Especially not since I’ve done PE and kept the gains for more than 1 year. I really thought it was permanent by then but obviously not. So, to my two bullets:
- Any ideas on how to break through the plateau is welcomed.
- Any ideas on how to permanent the gains already achieved, please let me know or ideas on how to permanent gains after each session.

It seems to me that PE is like building muscles, once to quit training, the muscles are gone. Please tell me I am wrong! ;)

Fellow PE:ers experiences are welcomed too of course.

I’ve read plenty of times that ppl kept their gains for a long time, but I have no real advice.

There are reports from Redzulu and stillwantmore around somewhere who tell exactly that. Don’t really know what they did different though.

No and that is what I am interested in. I skipped the warm-up/cool-down quite a bit but apart from that, I do not know if I did anything wrong.

Its probably somewhere between that and ‘totally permanent’. I also think perhaps certain types of PE produce more permanency.

But once a bodybuilder returns to regular training, he recovers his muscles right away. Maybe it is the same with PE?.

I have worked out quite a bit in my life and I recover quickly (2-3 months). It seems like the strength almost remains at the same level for a long period of time even though the muscles do not look that big.

So, we need to do PE for the rest of our lives then? huh…

Someone with an idea how to “crash” through the plateau? I’ve had the goal of 7,5” x 5,5” for years and almost been there but never really made it. Maybe hanging for length can do it? I’ve had thoughts of crazy hard girth routines like warm-up (rice sock), five clamping sessions on 10 minutes, then cool down with ice wraps followed by a cock ring to make the girth developed through the exercise to stay as long as possible. Sound a bit dangerous though…

Ironically, I wished I would have lost gains, but I managed to gain a bit not even really trying. When I quit PEing, the only thing we did was and still do out of habit is everytime I urinate I do the piss pull for abot 10 to 15 seconds before and after. Ms tnt has a habit of pulling on my unit at night when we are lying down in bed talking and when I am asleep she has it in her hand pulling on it. Read this I have reached my goals. Thia explains it all on my quick gains and why I wished I would have lost gains.

The same story for me. I’ll get to 7.25” in length and can’t seem to gain for months. So taken breaks and will quickly loose length and girth. And gaining most of it back takes time and will plateau again. Looking back at my routine it seems that i just need to to concentrate on length to break this plateau rather than doing girth and length at the same time. I have the same measurement now for over 3 years.

Up your intensity and time. Clearly less is less for you. So many guys are not gaining because of this ‘decon and come back as a newb’ advice that’s all over the place.

Read most of you thread. Nice to read that your wife supports you ;) . I wish I was that lucky and that my gains would stay the way they do for you and that I, in your thread, would find something that I had done wrong and redo things. But I didn’t. I think it has to do with my physical conditions more than anything else. Thanks for taking the time!

Hey fellow PE:er! In a way, nice to hear that I am not alone. I have been doing 1 month length PE, 2 months girth, several months only length, several months only girth etc. I get temporary gains but as soon as I change from length to girth or vice versa, they go away again. I tried to combine both at the same time but get hardly anything from that.

One thing that I have noticed and feel that I am different than other PE:er is that I seem to not ever injure myself. I get the red dots from stretching and clamping but they always go away quick, I get some temporary discolouration from clamping but it goes back quickly. Only time I got something was when I fucked my wife with the clamp on and got blue marks on my scrotum but I don’t think that counts. Anyway, my point is that I think I can go way harder on my unit without runt into problems.

So, my latest plan is to do things that most people would suggest from. Like start hanging (never done that) at 3-4 kg (6-8 lbs) and go from there. Warm up first and then kind of cool down with ice wrap or something. Once reached the length goal (if ever), I go for girth while do some kind of maintenance stretch to keep the length. My plan is to go hard on clamping with two clamps combined (warm-up first) and then cool-down while applying a cock ring to make it sink back slower. I should give this at least a year. Dangerous? Well, I need to listen to my body of course.

Why don’t you exercise for length first and not only reach your goal but surpass it as well. Then start working on girth and do the same, as you leave the length exercises to work on girth always do the small things like the piss pull when urinating or just before sitting on the toilet. Have you ever jelqed while taking a shower? Try it. C-pulls are for length and girth. Another exercise that we did for girth and I don’t think I published it. We tried so many different things until we found what works for us. Put a clamp on and get your unit as hard as you can while pushing the clamp as close to the pubic bone as possible (this is very important). Once you have gotten the clamp as far down to pubic bone as possible clamp it closed as much as you can. What this does is your fat pad, if you have one, works in your favor and trys to push the clamp off sort of acting as a stretcher or a hanger. Get what I mean. Clamp like that all the time, because it is important on how you put the clamp on. Now then for the exercise I started to post about. Once clamped, lay your clamped unit on a table and start rolling it side to side putting pressure on it. Re-clamp as necessary and continue doing the same. It is like kneading doe. It kind of hurts a bit, but PE in general hurts. After several of these, with out releasing the clamp wrap a warm towel around it. We had a towel warmer so I always had plenty heat, but you can warm the towel with hot water. have several towels ready to be uses as a heated towel using water tends to cool down quickly. Do a warm down for at least 5 to 10 minutes. Do a c-pull and release the clamp. Pinch your glands and stretch it straight out and wrap an AC bandage around it not real tight but tight. Go for a walk or do something to get the blood flowing. Remove the bandage after about 15 minutes and either put a cock ring on or start the exercise over again. Either way Your unit should be pretty plump.

As I read this thread, I say, concentrate on length first and surpass your goal that way, once you start on the girth exercise and if you start loosing length gains you may only to what you original length gain was. Get it? PE is really quite simple, but one must remember, consistency is the key and you must take a couple of off to allow your unit to repair itself, but don’t stop doing the piss pull ever.

Yeah my gains dropped back over a period of a couple of months, but it seems like I pick them back up again pretty quickly too. I’m still ramping back up from a long time off but I’m doing pretty well. I am curious about how one cements gains so that you don’t have to do PE the rest of your life.

I just post how it can be done, cementing gains. That post was only my opinion.

Crazy brutal girth exercises you name there! I thought I’ve gone hard at my unit but it seems not ;) .

I understand what you say but I don’t even understand how to reach my length goal. I tried that for years and after I gained the first like 1.3”, it seems more or less impossible to gain more (yes I got the thickening corda thing). Maybe if I try something really hard for my length and see how it comes out.