Results from last night's clamp test

ICM, anything specific I was supposed to find in that thread? I just skimmed it, but nothing applicable jumped out at me…

I dabbled with extreme ulis just enough to convince myself that they are the shit for gaining girth, so I decided to concentrate on length first then finish up with them for girth. Everything I read from Bib stated the desire to trap 100% of blood in/out flow, but I do think he was multi-tasking, not continually stimulating himself to keep a swelled erection. He gained 1.5” of girth with his extreme uli method, so it definitely has merit.

Only reason I asked…

I am still clamping every day for 15 minutes and (knock on wood) have yet to suffer from:

donut
skin soreness
bloated, smooth look
thrombosed veins
sore hands
flaccid retraction

And I have noticed:

a veinier look, flaccid and erect
increased girth, flaccid and erect
increased thickness around base, flaccid and erect
overall larger size flaccid, length and erect

I don’t measure flaccid since I fluctuate way too much, yet I can tell it is longer and thicker. My wife has even noticed the difference.

I am manually stretching for about 10 minutes prior to clamping, just to get the best expansion I can since I’m not seriously after length anymore. If I gain length, great.

The combination of the clamp and the BallZinger have made a world of difference for me. This is quicker and better than anything I have EVER done as far a PE is concerned.

HJ

I have noticed the exact same things, except I get a donut effect. Although thats only from my 40 minute girth session which include a 15 minute clamping, and a 10 minute clamping.

Clamping off all inflow/outflow is what I’ve been doing from the start. It’s probably a lot more intense than only clamping outflow partly which also means you can not do them for very long, I started with 5-6 mins sessions. Maybe I would have picked up more girthgains if I started like that too, I say maybe because my tunica is really tough. If you already get a good pump from clamping loosely then you should continue doing that, leaves more room for increasing the intensity when you hit a plateau.

Philadelph, Holy crap. You clamp AND jelq? Why? Try the clamp only and you should not get the donut.

I’ll chime in here because I have been doing a regular routine of extreme Ulis using a multi-clamp:

The objective of extreme Ulis, as ICM pointed out, is to stimulate an erection and slowly and completely restrict the out-flow but not the in-flow of blood. Ideally you will exceed the internal pressure that a normal erection creates.
This can only be accomplished by beginning stimulation in a flaccid/semi-erect state and incrementally increasing the constriction of out-flow while maintaining normal in-flow. Done any other way you will simply be clamping down on an erection, or unable to achieve an erection - both of which render the entire exercise moot.

Clamping off both the in and out flow of blood on a 100% erection can only result in a clamped off 100% erection. If having and maintaining 100% erection resulted in girth gains we would all have monster girth by the end of puberty.

It is certainly possible to limit the out-flow of blood and get results, as Hugh explained his technique, but as he stated that will require continual stimulation in order to maintain a high level of internal pressure.

With traditional extreme Ulis, if timed properly, you should not have to continue stimulation in order to maintain the erection. Ultimately the result should be a visible lateral expansion; although the erection might seem to be “softening” you will notice that it is not reducing in size - what is taking place is this expansion. This expansion should be evident after 2-3 consecutive sets.
The application of a heat source will also help encourage this.

BTW- as has been stated, this is for seriously conditioned units only. I wouldn’t even attempt these until having put in at least a month of the traditional Newbie routine.
Erect bends and/or jelqing in this state also strikes me as particularly risky.

-Cap

Damn well said Cap. All of it right on point.

Bigger

So has anybody seen some gains from this stuff or is it too early to tell?

Bib-

I was POSITIVE that in past discussions of extreme ulis, you stated clamping off blood in-flow was necessary, to prevent bp equalizaiton from reverse flow. Have you changed your mind, or did I miss something?

Captain, in your text, you mention if you fully clamp off a 100% erection, you only have a 100% erection. What I recall Bib recommending is getting to the 120% erection state, similar to what and how you describe, then full clamping off blood in-flow for no more than 10 minutes, to maximize expansion at this state. A bit different than you describe.

RB,

>I was POSITIVE that in past discussions of extreme ulis, you stated clamping off blood in-flow was necessary, to prevent bp equalizaiton from reverse flow. Have you changed your mind, or did I miss something?<

No, you are correct. I believe what Cap was referring to was the FILLING of the penis with blood to more than 100%. As I read it, he is correct that you cannot clamp an already erect penis. You have to slowly build the pressure of a less than erect penis, until the size becomes larger than normal. At that point, you can tighten down more, cutting off the inflow, and therefore stopping any backflow. But this only occurs once the pressure is there, and the size increased over normal.

What is hard for guys to understand is, you never actually have to get a true erection to get past this 100% state.

Your second paragraph is exactly correct. Filling to the above 100% state is the goal, and I believe Cap’s point.

Bigger

gainer,

I gained 1.5 inches of upper shaft and head girth using extreme Ulis, which is essentiall what the clamps are being used for.

Bigger

Bib, nice to know I haven’t killed all the brain cells yet… :)

What I took from Captain’s and other’s posts is that they ARE NOT cutting off in flow, ever, but just keeping the expanded state by manual stimulation.

For me, the hardest thing about extreme ulis is exactly what you are describing, getting the timing of the clamp off versus inflow just right while avoiding an erection. I’m hoping NOX2 will facilitate doing so…

RB-
Not different, but an essential. You are right about ultimately cutting off in-flow. I thought I had included that but obviously didn’t.
The point of my post was that the key to doing extreme Ulis has more to do with the chronology of the process than anything else: One cannot simply clamp off in and out-flow of an erection and expect results. It has to be properly timed for maximum expansion.

Also, I don’t mean to start a debate but I am personally convinced that CableClamps are not the ideal device to use to this end. They are not subtle enough in their incremental tightening leaps. They are also eliptical in their design and therefore make complete constriction hard to attain. This can be remedied by compensating with strategically placed wrap or building up the long ends of the clamps oval shape - but that doesn’t eliminate the tightening issue.
They might work for some, but I found them impossible to do extreme Ulis with.

-Cap

Captain, sounds like we are on the exact same page…

I’ve found the multi-clamp (thanks again, Ike :) ) works well, but I wish the band on it was a bit wider. If one watches the engorgement process like you stated, it works fine. Get a bit too much of an erection, and it doesn’t work as well.

When I get to the point of doing nothing but X-ulis, I will build the Uli thing, perhaps swapping the adjustment screw for a wing screw or something to ease tightening, if the multi-clamp gives me fits.

What would really be sweet is a smaller ratcheting strap wrench. I’ve looked all around, but can’t find such an animal. If I could, I’d buy one in a heart beat…

RB-
I too am a multi-clamp user (via Ike and a surprise encounter with one at Wal-Mart). I imagine that you, like me are using wrap as both a pre/post engorgement aid as well as a comfort buffer because of the thin nature of the multi-clamp.
Though the slim threaded band of the multi-clamp alone is not ideal for comfortable X-Ulis (love that abbreviation by the way RB - a keeper :leftie: ) the right amount of Ace bandage as wrap seems to negate this as an issue.
Used in conjunction, I have found these two items essentially make a strap wrench.

The wing nut/screw idea is a good one for the Uli Thing - I experimented with a bunch of options myself, but to be honest the “out of the package” ease of the multi-clamp made it an irresistible choice. I think I’m becoming lazy.