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Stretching and "inner penis" exposed-myth?

Originally Posted by Mr. Schlong
All I know is, my stats below in my signature don’t lie. I started with almost 6 inches and now have over 7 and my cock doesn’t touch my navel.


Interesting about the navel… Personally, I’m more concerned with trying to get my penis into holes on other peoples body. ;)

Seriously though, it is curious. Any weight fluctuation that you think may have contributed to the navel issue?

Also, congratulations on your gains. :)


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Originally Posted by cantlook
Interesting about the navel… Personally, I’m more concerned with trying to get my penis into holes on other peoples body. ;)

Seriously though, it is curious. Any weight fluctuation that you think may have contributed to the navel issue?

Also, congratulations on your gains. :)


LOL, trust me - I’m not trying to get it IN my navel… but the navel seems to be most guy’s dream length/goal - to be able to say their cock touches their navel.

No to the weight fluctuation, because at the end of the day, my body always seems to stay constant. I can’t say it hasn’t gotten ANY closer to the navel, but I know that extra inch I “gained” should have brought it almost to it. Which is why I give credence to the inner penis theory. And there are those who say that inner penis is unsubstantiated hypothesis, but it’s really not. We know there IS penis inside the body. We know there are ligs that are all along the inner shaft, leading all the way to the bulb of the penis. We know that the ligs *will* give way and stretch and therefore it will release more inner penis, making it outer penis. And we know that eventually, no amount of stress will continue to release all inner penis. That is when you begin dedicated tunica work. THAT is where you will see the penis reach the navel and beyond.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

That doesn’t make any sense, if it was pulled out from the inside or was ‘new’ penis once it is lenghtened it should go more near to your navel.

Your penis is tied to your body, from the inside NOT by the ligs; and inside your body it diverges in two different directions.

“The root (radix penis) of the penis is triradiate in form, consisting of the diverging crura, one on either side, and the median urethral bulb. Each crus is covered by the Ischiocavernosus, while the bulb is surrounded by the Bulbocavernosus. The root of the penis lies in the perineum between the inferior fascia of the urogenital diaphragm and the fascia of Colles. In addition to being attached to the fasciæ and the pubic rami, it is bound to the front of the symphysis pubis by the fundiform and suspensory ligaments.
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marinera - Why Bib’s LOT Theory holds water

Maybe there is a more sound explanation to your misterious gains, you took wrong measurements?

Myth

I know this thread is really old and don’t understand why it’s still here unless people think it’s still relevant.

More to the point, I can’t believe that anyone thought or thinks that surgical release of the ‘inner penis’ is sensible or even possible.
Nor do I believe any surgeon worth his salt would attempt to transplant the deep tissues to a forward anchor point in order to expose more penile shaft.

The deep tissues inside are there for a reason and essential function - if they weren’t there our dicks would fall off


Stats (BP) 2004/04/14 5.25 x 5.0 2013/01/29 6.625 x 6.125 Goal - 8.5 x 6.75 - ETA Jan 2025

Originally Posted by Tentpole
I know this thread is really old and don’t understand why it’s still here unless people think it’s still relevant.

More to the point, I can’t believe that anyone thought or thinks that surgical release of the ‘inner penis’ is sensible or even possible.

Nor do I believe any surgeon worth his salt would attempt to transplant the deep tissues to a forward anchor point in order to expose more penile shaft.


The thread is only about 15 months old yet the discussion is still very relevant because apparently there are plenty of surgeons who are NOT worth their salt and even more people who think surgery is the only way to enlarge their penis.


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Originally Posted by marinera
That doesn’t make any sense, if it was pulled out from the inside or was ‘new’ penis once it is lenghtened it should go more near to your navel.

Your penis is tied to your body, from the inside NOT by the ligs; and inside your body it diverges in two different directions.

“The root (radix penis) of the penis is triradiate in form, consisting of the diverging crura, one on either side, and the median urethral bulb. Each crus is covered by the Ischiocavernosus, while the bulb is surrounded by the Bulbocavernosus. The root of the penis lies in the perineum between the inferior fascia of the urogenital diaphragm and the fascia of Colles. In addition to being attached to the fasciæ and the pubic rami, it is bound to the front of the symphysis pubis by the fundiform and suspensory ligaments.
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marinera - Why Bib’s LOT Theory holds water

Maybe there is a more sound explanation to your misterious gains, you took wrong measurements?


No mate, I take the same measurements the same way all the time. At the beginning of this thread you were speaking of the suspensory ligaments that hold the “inner penis” close to the pubic bone. If all you are doing when hanging is stretching out those ligs, you are indeed pulling out that inner penis, and pulling it down. Therefore, with it lowering but now being “outside” the body as usable penis, it makes perfect sense that it would not reach the navel. In essence, I have not truly gained any length but have just stretched the ligs and released some of it to now become outer penis.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

To me, the problem with the suspensory lig stretching theory is the following.

It is described as a peeling away from the body, like a piece of tape coming off a roll if you will, the tape doesn’t lengthen, more is exposed from the roll.

That is all well and good except the tape is needs to come completely off the roll to expose this new tape. In this sense, the adhesive is compared to the suspensory ligs.

To accurately compare it to a penis that has NOT undergone surgery to cut the ligs, the adhesive would have to be stretched between the roll and the tape. creating a triangle or wedge of sorts between the roll and the pulled tape, or the body the penis.

To me, I would expect this to show as a freakish increase in base girth but not really a visible increase in length since the ligs stays attached to the body and the penis and is just stretched between those two points.


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Originally Posted by cantlook
To me, the problem with the suspensory lig stretching theory is the following.

It is described as a peeling away from the body, like a piece of tape coming off a roll if you will, the tape doesn’t lengthen, more is exposed from the roll.

That is all well and good except the tape is needs to come completely off the roll to expose this new tape. In this sense, the adhesive is compared to the suspensory ligs.

To accurately compare it to a penis that has NOT undergone surgery to cut the ligs, the adhesive would have to be stretched between the roll and the tape. creating a triangle or wedge of sorts between the roll and the pulled tape, or the body the penis.

To me, I would expect this to show as a freakish increase in base girth but not really a visible increase in length since the ligs stays attached to the body and the penis and is just stretched between those two points.


I’ve read that those who have the surgery have a floppy penis because the ligs are no longer there to hold it up and that it drops, giving the illusion that there have been gains. I can tell you this: my base girth increased with my gains. But if the inner penis is not true, then how do we explain the factors I have had? 1 inch gain, but penis is not really any closer to my navel than it was? If it were tunica growth, it would be reaching my navel by now. Also, when I took a good 6 months off, I lost some of my gains and dropped down to 6.75. That sounds more like my ligs tightened up and brought the penis back up some.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

Your has to be a very exceptional case Mr. Schlong, not even in flaccid state 1” is gained through ligs cut. Do you have b/a pictures? And did you take straight up EL measurements?

Side note: your sig says that you gained 1.5” EL actually; now you are saying that you gained nothing. I’m not going to lie to you, you are making me pretty confused.

Originally Posted by marinera
Your has to be a very exceptional case Mr. Schlong, not even in flaccid state 1” is gained through ligs cut. Do you have b/a pictures? And did you take straight up EL measurements?

Side note: your sig says that you gained 1.5” EL actually; now you are saying that you gained nothing. I’m not going to lie to you, you are making me pretty confused.


I didn’t cut my ligs if that’s what you gathered. What I was saying was from what I have read, cutting of ligs can give a max of 1 inch of added length.

I’m not saying I gained nothing. Somehow, somewhere I gained over an inch. My penis at starting point was 5.75. Within a very short period I was at 7 inches where I fought long and hard to reach 7.5. After taking off more than 6 months, I am down to roughly 6.75.

By B&A pics, if you mean with a ruler, no. I should have but didn’t. I DO know my wife knows the difference and my penis has the stretch marks to prove it.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

Originally Posted by Mr. Schlong
I didn’t cut my ligs if that’s what you gathered. What I was saying was from what I have read, cutting of ligs can give a max of 1 inch of added length.
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It gives half inches of flaccid gains, not erect gains. Although I’m not denying it can give more than half inches to few people (and nothing as well to some other people), I’m doubtful 1 man on 1000 can have 1” erect gains cutting the ligs. And if cutting the ligs is unlikely to give those gains, how just stretching the ligs can give those gains?

Originally Posted by Mr. Schlong
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I’m not saying I gained nothing. Somehow, somewhere I gained over an inch.
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Again I’m confused, because above you said:

Originally Posted by Mr. Schlong
…… In essence, I have not truly gained any length but have just stretched the ligs and released some of it to now become outer penis.

Originally Posted by Mr. Schlong
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By B&A pics, if you mean with a ruler, no. I should have but didn’t. I DO know my wife knows the difference and my penis has the stretch marks to prove it.


Stretch marks are a sign that the skin has been stretched by the hanger, not by the growth of the penis. So true that I’ve never heard speaking of ‘stretch marks’ by those who use extenders, manual exercises or pumps, only hangers. That’s because the hanger (clamp-style hangers, more precisesly) puts stress and friction on the skin, which is holding large part of the weight, whereas other techniques do not.

Trust me I’m not trying to disprove your feedback, but I find that more than one thing doesn’t add up here.

Marinera, it’s all good. I wish I had answers and could speak with full assurance as to why has happened. All I know is my penis measures over 1 inch than it did prior to hanging, yet it’s no really that much closer to my navel than it was prior.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

Do you own a pump, by any chances? If so, I would be grateful if you would like to do a little experiment: pump up to your max lenght, then measure your penis at 3 angles: low angle (naer pointing to the floor, as far as it is comfortable), at 90 degrees with your body and finally pointing to the ceiling, then report if there is a difference in lenght.

We’ve talked about this for years and dissected it many times over. Anyhow, the penis is ancored tightly to the front face of the pubic bone by an extensive network of short ligaments. On most of us this accounts for 1 to 3”, which cannot be pulled out, but there is a small amount that will be freed ( up to an inch ) by stretching or snapping the central suspensitory lig.

The complete penis shaft length is from the very tip, to the very “tail” of it which attaches near the perineum ( anus ), we are working on ways to go after some of this length trapped on the front pubic face. In our talks and looking at the diagrams it’s easily to see that several inches of penis are not going to be able to be pulled from the pubic front face, unless there was an extensive surgery that went after some of this length and cut it and freed it away.

Originally Posted by marinera

Do you own a pump, by any chances? If so, I would be grateful if you would like to do a little experiment: pump up to your max lenght, then measure your penis at 3 angles: low angle (naer pointing to the floor, as far as it is comfortable), at 90 degrees with your body and finally pointing to the ceiling, then report if there is a difference in lenght.

No sir, I don’t have a pump but may have one shortly as I have been searching other avenues. And if/when I do, I will definitely do this for you. Does a pump have to be involved, can I not just get erect and measure?


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

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