Originally Posted by marinera
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marinera,
You are very good at explaining things. Please help me out here, what is the justification for deconditioning as you see it? It seems other members also don’t understand this so this might be helpful.
My understanding is that our bodies are adapting to stimuli. We try to find stimuli that promote adaptations that are favorable. Every stimulus should create some sort of adaptation - however, that adaptation might have a limit (increasing the variable might not cause any change once the body has adapted fully). So we have a bunch of stimuli (clamping, hanging, jelqing, etc.) and a bunch of variables that we can change to increase the stimuli over time (TUC, time hanging, time jelqing, etc.).
If deconditioning works, then it means that we are removing the body’s adaptation to the stimuli - this so-called plateau. If the adaptation is removed, and growth begins again, given that it stopped before the deconditioning, then we should have lost adaptation during the deconditioning break - correct? If adaptation is here defined as visible growth, then we should have lost visible growth during the break and therefore the whole process would seem irrelevant and counter-productive.
And my contention about this premise, that adaptation is irrevocably connected to visible growth, is the key part here. If you can somehow separate adaptation from visible growth, then my whole concept of how growth occurs is incorrect (this is general, I’m not talking about specific growth theories). Then it would be that the body is in fact stupid and inefficient, it changes to suit stimuli and then completely forgets that it has changed, and begins to change again, when given a deconditioning break. This might be a feature of smooth muscle hypertrophy or collagen production that is unique - but it seems unlikely. Adaptation should never occur as a black or white thing, if the penis is completely suited to the action naturally it won’t adapt. It won’t simply adapt because the stimuli is offered. Imagine a 300 lb. bodybuilder lifting 20 lb. dumbells for bicep curls. Stimulus is there. Why isn’t he growing? He is adapted. A break will only work if during that break he manages to lose so much strength (and therefore muscle mass) that the stimuli will not suit his abilities, and then he will have to re-adapt (starting from 150 lbs. again!).
On the other hand, mixing different stimuli to promote cross-adaptation could be beneficial. Overloading fatigue past the point of recuperation (growth) and then breaking stimuli could be beneficial. But I don’t see how straight out deconditioning would work.
*These are just my thoughts, and they might provide you with a platform to explain to me why deconditioning is logically correct. My logical deduction is correct I think, so basically you should explain why the premise is false: that adaptation is irrevocably tied with visible growth.