The mystery of base girth gains

Thanks Capernicus. I have only found a paper about VCT on foot ulcer though, hard to draw a line with PE (at least for me). If you have under hand any interesting link, please post it here.

Not found any good info yet just some studies on patients with diabetes, the technique of expansion and contraction supposedly helps circulation and capillary health in extremities.

It was an earlier post about jelqing compressing and expanding that made me think of it.

On the contrary I have not gained from clamping. I have been clamping using home made clamps but my base is smaller as compared to the rest penis. Could it be that I am using wrong clamps and inconsistent clamping. I normally clamp once in a week.

Just to add my two cents, I’ve had both girth gains and length gains from clamping, the biggest gains have been my base girth which was originally smaller then my mid girth, and is now over a 1/2 inch larger then my mid girth.

I think once per week is a too low frequency. Try 1 on/ 1 off.

What are the safe duration limits for hanging?

Like eveything else … it depends on the dude!

The general concensus seems to be that 20 minutes sets work best.

Safety was a factor in my decision to settled in on 20 minute sets, but the biger factor was comfort / effectiveness (I get to fatigue at around 15 minutes and ride the fatigue to 20 minutes).

Your English is perfectly clear, but I don’t find your explanation convincing at all. By applying a clamp near to the base there will obviously be a slight increase in blood pressure below the clamp, but I doubt that this would be enough to permanently deform the tunica. The “mystery” also applies to base girth gains reported by jelqers. There is zero or negligible outward pressure applied to the base of the tunica during jelqing. Most people jelq when they are semi-erect. The slight blood pressure build-up at the base would almost certainly not be enough to deform the tunica. The only realistic explanation is that hypertrophy of the CC is induced by trauma and/or hypertension. This subsequently forces the tunica to expand.

‘By applying a clamp near to the base there will obviously be a slight increase in blood pressure below the clamp’.

:rolleyes:

Very interesting and convincing explanations about this effect. I also think that clamp works over tunica in a similar way that jelq does, since when you jelq, you squeeze the penis but despite this fact, it grows on the opossite direction.. More or less the same as it happens near the clamp and in the way you’ve explained.

What do you thing about smooth muscle development or optimization with respect to LongVehicle questions? Isn’t it possible to be the answer to CS growth? (according to TGC theory)

No one is questioning that an incerase in Blood pressure occurs … it is just hard to visualize how this small increase in blood pressure would cause a deformation of the tunica.

I can’t imagine that the increase in pressure behind the clamp is greater that what you experience during a normal un-clamped erection.

LV started a thread about this topic, you can find the link under his signature. I have to confess I never thought much about CS. I really don’t know if it is possible to spefically target the CS. Anyway, the CS remains spongy while the penis is erect, so, apart the visual effect, I doubt an increas in its size would do much during penetration. It is kinda ‘fake mass’.

Thank you very much, I should say I agree with your point about CS.

I’d like to ask you an specific question related to your explanation about the effects on the tunica I had forgotten before.
Do you think (or have you experienced) that the penis’ girth growth during jelq strokes comes on the direction to which you stress more? For example, if one jelq using more strength/pressure on the sides of the penis (with the thumb and index finger or whatever), do you think it’d translated into more girth on this sides or on the contrary? (top-bottom)? Would it depend on the erection level?

I’m more interested in increasing the width of the penis (left-right) and I usually use C grip to try to get it, but now I think (and more after your good explanation) that this kind of grip could produce the opposite effect since the stress is more focussed on the top and bottom part of the penis…

Thank you very much for your thread, attention and answer.

I find when pressing on the ventral side (CS) this protrudes more; so yes, I think pressing more on the sides would be more beneficial for width gains. In similar way, when I do horse440 (applying a manual clamp at the base and a clamp on the glans, basically) the stress is shared by both CS and CC/TA (these latter leading to width gains).

The problem is that pressing with fingers on the sides is pretty fatiguing and, at the same time, alternative mechanical devices like power jelqs don’t work that nice.

It is interesting to point out how this sounds apparently counter intuitive: if you apply a pressure on your penis and don’t leave room for lateral expansion (pressing on the CS), I would imagine the obtained axial expansion would cause width growth; instead, what we see is that is not the ‘widening’ per se that is more productive for width gains, but the combination of lenght oriented expansion, through squeezing the area, and the subsequent widht oriented expansion of the same area, due to the augmented blood pressure.

I think somebody should build a couple of flat vacuum pumps: one that would give no room for lateral expansion (<->) but room for deep (vertical) expansion; this would cause the squeezing of the tunica (the friction would be an issue, though); another cylinder build in the opposite way: room only for width expansion. An application of the ‘divide and conquer’ principle.

Between the base and the clamp. That is your argument not mine.