The Newbie Routine should be reconsidered?

Hi guys,

I know that I’m still quite a Newbie whose recently restarted doing PE, but don’t you guys think that the Newbie Routine as it is posted in it’s current form is just ‘too much’? Especially when you look at the jelqing department. I think that we all know by now that 30 minutes of jelqing is not only time-consuming and tiresome, but also not very effective! Also, people around here seem to agree today that the best gains come from doing low-erection jelqing, which the Newbie Routine does not promote. Also, starting at 10 minutes of jelqing to begin with is just overkill in my book.

More and more people around here are believing in the ‘less is more’ approach, so why isn’t this view reflected in the Newbie Routine? Most new people who are doing the Newbie Routine are doing some sort of modified (read: lighter) version of the routine, because it’s just too fast or too hard for them.

When I came here for the first time, almost two years ago, the Newbie Routine was exactly the same as it is today! I was quite shocked at this to be honest, and I am wondering if I am truly the only one who is thinking that the Newbie Routine as it is in it’s current form is just ‘too much’ for a Newbie-cock. I personally think it is horribly outdated, and needs to be reconsidered. Yes, I might be a Newbie, but I am not just babbling random nonsense. I did quite a bit of reading before I started doing PE again, and the above points are something which are definitely noticeable changes with in the Thunders-community as far as I’ve noticed.

p.s.

The Newbie Routine in it’s current form:

1. 5 minutes hot wrap
2. 5 minutes manual stretch (ten 30-second stretches)
3. 10 minutes of jelq (two hundred 3-second strokes)
4. 5 minutes hot wrap
5. 50 kegels of five second holds each

Gradually increase to 10 min total of stretches and 30 min of jelqing over about 6 weeks time.

Schedule: 2 ON 2 OFF

How I am personally doing it now (and would recommend to first-time PE-ers):

1. 5 minutes warm up (hot wrap, IR-lamp, etc)
2. 2 sets of 30-second manual stretching in all directions (but recommended to skip these for the first two weeks)
3. 2 sets of 20 low-erection jelqs with a light squeezing pressure
4. 5 minutes cool down while keeping the penis in a light stretch throughout the cool down process
5. Two sets of 20 kegels of five second holds each, five days a week

I would up the jelqs by 10 and not more than 20 per week. I personally consider doing more than 150-200 jelqs a waste of time
I would up the stretching with one stretch in every direction every one or two weeks
I would add 10 kegels per week and not go beyond doing 100-120 of them per day.

Schedule: Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays (except for the kegels)

In my opinion it still is better to underwork your unit for the first couple of weeks, instead of going all out and beating your dick to shit in your first two weeks. :)

I think you have it spot on, but I think stretching is something you can increase faster when compared to jelqing.

I agree with you too, I always tried and failed the newbie routine as the jelqing just seem to kill

My unit, I may give it another go but with a loss less jelqs:)

Justlearning: Yeah, i’m not all too familiar with the exact amounts, but the reason for the ‘going slow’ approach is that your dick will get used to high stress levels quite easily, which means that you must increase stress even further. Is you go slow, then you have a bigger window for increasement, without letting PE taking up half a day to perform. :P

mrmarshmallow: Yeah, when I first started PE I felt that doing 10 minutes of jelqing was already way too much to begin with, let alone 30 minutes! You should definately try to lower the amount of jelqing ánd to decrease grip-pressure. The funny thing is that there are people here who have way better results with near-flaccid jelqing and a medium grip approach. :)

When I used to stretch I pulled, but not as much is shown in the videos. It looks like his penis is so taught there. Now I restarted after a few days of taking a break, and now I’m pulling much lighter. I’m going to try this for a month or so. I don’t feel the stretch that much, but I’m hoping it will be better than what I was doing for the long-term.

I’m sure it will work better that way because it shouldn’t feel if you can pull your dick off at any moment as far as I know! :P

Exactly that was what I pointed out last month.

I started doing newbie routine in January.I was so much obsessed with PE that I strictly followed the newbie routine.But then ad to pull myself back from PE due to blood in my precum during jelqing.That moment i realized in how big trouble i could be.Thank God i quite that routine took a month of rest then again I m back on PE.But now I m doing the linear newbie routine.Which seems to be so sensible wonder why is that routine not showcased that much as it should be?

But again I feel i start overdoing PE by pulling my dick too much and applying pressure too much during jelqing to get a bigger dick as soon as possible.

Dark Blight would you tell how much pressure do you apply during jelqing and with how much force should we stretch?Because in videos it seems he is overdoing but of course he would be experienced PE’er.

That’s the thing that gets me. We are told to go light and strong grips are bad etc. But looking at the example videos the guy is absolutely squeezing the shit out of his huge dick.

Finally some new reply’s to this (in my opinion) important topic!

@rock900: yeah, same story here, except for the injure that is. I started with the newbie routine but just couldn’t keep up with it. Then I discovered the linear newbie routine and it was such a huge improvement! Today I am doing a modified version of the linear routine and it works like a charm!

About overdoing the jelqs: I read somewhere in a post called ‘Kevins Log: or soon to be log’ that a good pressure to apply should be a little higher than the pressure you apply while masturbating. That’s what I’m doing right now and it seems to be enough to get results. I think that any pressure that gets your glans swollen, hard, and filled up with blood will do in the beginning. After a while you can ramp up the pressure a bit when gains stop. Confirmation from a light-jelq expert on this subject would be nice.

About overdoing the stretches: What works for me is to stretch in such a way that you can feel your ligaments getting stretched, but not in such a way that it feels painful. PE done right should not be painful! Stretching with such a force that it tires your hands quickly is certainly too much as far as I’ve noticed.

@Kingdong69: Absolutely true! But don’t forget that with time, your dick will get accustomed to higher and higher pressures. What looks to you like he’s squeezing the shit out of his dick, might be a light squeeze for this guy. Still, a warning about applying high pressures to a newbie dick would be very appropriate in all of those video’s though.

The threads show that everyone needs a personalized routine. The important thing is, what gains have you seen from your approach. If things are working great. If it isn’t working change it up and keep track of what you have tried so you can hone in on the growth zone.

shunga

While I agree with the “everyone needs a personalized routine”-part, I still feel that the newbie-routine should be changed. People need a routine to start off with, to get accustomed with the whole PE-thing. After that they can go ahead and personalize the stuff. Everyone tells you to follow the newbie routine for at least three months, so the newbie routine still is an important part of the whole PE-experience. For this very reason I think that the newbie routine just isn’t something which you should keep in the same form, year after year. PE-knowledge expands and changes every week, so wouldn’t it be nice to reconsider the newbie routine every once in a while?

Well if someone was demonstrating how to score a goal in football; Would he just daintily run up to it and give it a light poke with his football boot or show what a decent kick should be done.

The demonstrator is showing how it is done. Siurely it makes sense to do it to give maximum gains, so that when newbies are past the early stage they know how to do it properly, but tell them to take it lightly at first.

Well thats not really analogous. It’s like saying if Tiger Woods needs to make a 20ft putt he should go up with a driver and hit it to fuck lol. No, he’ll go slow and steady with a putter.

If jelqing should be done slow and steady and lightly then thats the way it would be in a demo. Maximum effort is not doing something wrong.

However, I am only stating what I have read as in light grip is better, so if a tough grip is the way to go then that’s fair enough and how the demo should be. I never realised it should get heavier and stronger to progress I thought just do more?

Just to state my opinion, I have been doing PE for nearly 4 plus years on and off now. When I first started I went balls to the wall to put it simply and never really got any substantial gains. Since then I have mixed and matched routines and exercises over this time and I started to believe that it just was not going to work for me. Then I figured what the hell and I took the less is more approach recently and I got to say it is yielding great results. I am finally gaining at a steady pace now.

This leads me to agree that the newbie routine may be a bit much for a beginner. Granted I never really started with such a routine, but after a short break from PE I came back doing a modified version of the newbie routine to see gains. The biggest problem I feel has halted my PE success is the 5 on 2 off approach. Changing to a every other day and sometimes a two day off period has lead to my success.

Yes I realize I am a newbie considering my measly two posts, but I have been around Thunders well before I eventually joined this forum. I joined sometime last year and did not post until now due to my lack of gains.

You’ve twisted yourself around I’m afraid.

A putter is meant to be used lightly. I chose my analogy carefully, as you would need a good force to make a goal kick. If nothing else just to make sure it bounced off someone who nearly got in the way.

Jelqing is used in both light and heavy pressures So it is much better to show just one way and to give verbal instructions on when and how to use it.