The thought of mainstream PE...

On the comparison of PE to breast augmentation:
Silicone tits are made of silicone. A penis enlarged via natural PE is a larger penis. Conclusion: There is no comparison.

Let’s not forget that a person could choose, in theory, to enlarge their penis just a little bit. This can be the result too, of genetic limitations. Whoever heard of a woman increasing her breast-size by 10% ?

I seriously doubt if anyone out there will be able to detect that a growth of 1” in your penis is the result of pulling the shit out of it for nine months. But just *squeeeeezzee* those fake ditties once and the truth is out.

Stevie, maybe I was being immature. Nevermind, I admit it, I was.

I just got paranoid thinking the whole world was going to figure it out LOL.

But you had some great points. It took me a few months of searching every now and then to end up here.

I’m very thankful and I’m sure everybody else here is also.

LonerJ, no need to apologize, I didn’t take any offense.

I do understand your initial thoughts and fears on the subject. Thunder’s Place is a warm and inviting community with very receptive and supportive members. Once you get in here it starts to feel like a fraternity.

I’m also bothered by the thought of the masses coming into our tight secure world and breaking up our unity and personalized camaraderie. However, like I said before, how would you feel if no one let you in and provided you with the guidance and reassurance we all show each other? This is the same reason why I never rushed a fraternity in college. I won’t deliberately seek someone’s attention or acceptance.

I will gladly welcome anyone into the world of PE with the same compassion and encouragement I was afforded in my first post.

Again, no offense taken from your posts, you were just speaking your mind, which is a very good thing to do. :)

You weren’t satisfied with your natural dick and she wasn’t satisfied with her natural breast size and you both did something to it. There’s always a comparison.

10% can be a lot! And not all use silicon implants…

Somebody that you’ve had sex a lot lately, but stopped and started again after gaining that 1”, don’t you think she would notice? If she knew about PE, wouldn’t she doubt it?

OK here’s 2 more ¢,

9,412 members. There are millions of people (MEN) on the internet, where are they? If there was more of a market we would be buried with more members. Who’s to say?

You’re saying the motivation is analogous. When did I compare motivation? I’m talking about the actual physical result: One result was manufactured at a Dow Chemical plant, the other a result of cell growth or cell expansion or however the hell this stuff works: This is “Natural PE” - not “Silicone Implant PE”.

Most womens breasts easily “grow” 10% during their menstrual cycle alone. Why on earth then would any woman pay a surgeon $5000.00 for a 10% gain…..so she can appear 20% larger once a month?

Maybe. I don’t know. I do know from experience that a woman can just as likely attribute a sense that her lovers penis feels larger to something about herself having changed: either her vagina has tightened (millions of women kegel regularly) or time away from her lover’s massive Loin-Lasher has dulled her memory a bit.
My original point was that “fake” breasts are easy enough to detect just using one’s eyes - even easier by touch. I don’t begrudge it—-I think it’s great!
The distinction is that there is nothing “fake” about a naturally enlarged penis. So what criteria would a woman (or anyone else) use to determine that a penis had been enlarged?

mirlin1960,

Finding this site amidst a sea of pills, devices and articles about the same thing may be more difficult than just a choice. Not to mention that there are many PE forums.

Just a little fuel. Keep that fire burning.

Regarding the gym analogy, I think an important difference may be the frequency required. From what I understand on these forums, most guys make good gains at PE only if they “work out” their dicks at least 4 or 5 times a week (and many find every day most effective). And then they have to keep consistent with this for several weeks or months in a row to make their first *measurable* gains. With, say, weight lifting on the other hand, a guy can work out hard twice (or even once) a week and start noticing big strength gains within a couple weeks, and muscle gains within a few weeks thereafter. For this reason, I think even fewer guys will be able to stick with PE than weightlifting. No noticable gains = no motivation.

Also, as has been mentioned, I think, on other threads like this one, we may overestimate how many guys really do want so badly to enlarge their penises. I’ve mentioned PE to some friends who are very open about things like this, and none was interested, once I mentioned how much effort and time it requires. The basic attitude was that they were already getting plenty of sex, and the women seemed to be getting plenty of pleasure, so why bother PEing? This response suggests that the more likely audience for PE may be guys who have been less successful in dating women — those whose dicks are getting less action in the “marketplace” — so again, PE info becoming mainstream may not affect the average dick women see as much as we might think. I, for one, find that my motivation for PEing drops noticably after a heavy weekend of xxx action… once I’ve had enough orgasms, all things sexual are just uninteresting and unimportant.

I think PE is already mainstream. My gf checked her e-mails the other day at my house and I saw she had 7-9 e-mails advertaising PE. A month ago I saw a german movie about a guy who thought his dick was small and you can see him hanging (well you do not actually see the dick but it gives a preety graphic idea of what hanging is). I don’t think is a bad thing I don’t undestand why so many people get scared about other people finding about PE. First of all, not that many people stick with it, you can be sure of this by seeing that not eveyone has 6-pack abs, people are lazy and don’t want to put much effort in anything. Besides it’s not like you have to brake a world record if you want to keep using it; there are not so many girls that could fit a 12x8 dick in them.

Yes, I’m talking about motivation and I think it’s an important factor. A sign of insecurity if you will, something that makes you a less of a man in the eyes of women and people in general.

Not every boob job is done for enlargening purposes, but mayby for better physical appearance. With 10% more material, breasts can be made a lot more “firm”, in lack of a better term.

Discoloration, red/black spots, “baseball bat” - effect, weak erections, lack of sensitivity, hair further along the shaft etc….

Yes, Base. I see. And you point out a serious double-standard given that a woman seeking breast-enhancement is unlikely to have her feminimity called into question. She may be accused of vanity by some, but never of being less of a woman. The same goes for vaginal tightening.

—-Capn’Delicious

She is still criticized, isn’t she? Especially among women..?

We CAN indeed split hairs. I agree that her manhood isn’t compromised there, so there wouldn’t be comparison. I think this conversation has gone far enough now and starts to resample an immature “Yes-No” debate between too kindergarden kids. Say what you have to say, but I’m done now. :)

Mirlin,

I agree with you, that PE is not mainstream at all.

The following is an interesting calculation…

Let’s assume there are about, incl. our board here, 75,000 males, splattered all over the United States, that actually know about PE. In 2000, the male population of the US was 138.1 million, that would equal a percentage of 0.0543%, if I’ did this correctly, that know about PE.

I wouldn’t call that exactly mainstream. The media might catch on to that hype, sooner or later, due to extensive presence on the internet. But then again, for how long has been breast augmentation been around? 2 Decades or 3 now? But not every woman has had it done. Then there are the ones that don’t need implants due to their natural size. I bet that that number is higher then the number of well-endowed men. I don’t see PE mainstream happening in the near future, or at least not to a point where we need to be concerned about males flooding our board here.

Just my 2 cents on the mainstream issue.

The December issue of GQ is on the stands. I stood there in the store and turned all 290 pages. Didn’t see anything. If anyone else has a chance it would be good to double check. Maybe the article is just postponed until January.

Or, maybe the editors checked into natural PE and decided they didn’t want any more guys to know about it. Now the editors are members here. Maybe they can start giving the rest of us fashion advice.