When To Move On To Devices

So I was wondering if anyone had advice on when to move on to devices (hanging or pumping) to keep the progress going. I am getting fair results from my current manual routine, but I really want to get into hanging or pumping for length. I want tk gain length quickly, but I know we are supposed to be patient as well.

How long did you guys wait before adding your devices tk the routine/replacing manuals with them?

When you stop getting fair results.

Im meaning more so along the lines of progression. Like how if you continuously add weights to a bench press you will continue to add strength. If you keep progression going, then technically you wouldnt need to change a routine.

So Im asking when do you feel like you have added enough time to a stretch (ie stretching for 5 mins and adding time until you reach 30 mins worth) and decide to move to something else to change things up.

I realize you want to switch things up when you reach a plateau, but if you keep the theory of progression you shouldnt necessarily reach one. So if you reach 30 minutes of stretching time, would you just switch to hanging so that its a less hands on (no pun intended) exercise allowing you to do other things as well as hit the ligs in a different way to switch things up?

That’s really what I’m asking here. At what point do you add/switch to a device to keep your member from growing accustomed to the current force?

The second part of your statement assumes you know exactly when your gains will stop. The only way to know is to ride them out. The theory of progression is not directly applicable here. I don’t fix what isn’t broken in PE if it’s coming. You can’t optimize gains. That’s where theory departs from reality.

At the arbitrary point you decide. As it’s only certainly accustomed at a Plateau.

I agree with thoughtfulgold. We’ve learned that there is no holy grail of P.E and not everyone has the same results. If you want to experiment with different devices then go for it. In my opinion you should move on to devices and different techniques when you feel like so.

I see. You bring up good points. I guess its a certain mindset that I need to break out of. I want to hang and I want to pump which makes me eager and uncertain how long I should do a certain routine.

My weight lifting makes me very regimented and I think that spills over to other things from time to time.

I’ve been doing manual PE for just over 8 years on and off and in that time gained between 1 and 1-1/2” in length and about .25 in girth. Most of that gain was within the first 2-3 years. I feel like I’ve merely kept up a maintenance routine in recent years but am now looking to kick start gains again so here I am hanging for the first time. I’m loving the sensation and feels less daunting than manual work.

This is why I stopped doing anything PE related. I’m looking into new options and surgery’s. Also you might wanna thinks I’m sure nobody is if you might even get scar tissue doing all this.

Surgery has scar tissue as a given result. It is them cutting on you with a scalpel then you have to be stitched up and heal, after all. Scar tissue is unavoidable with surgery.

And thus far, I personally have no scar tissue from PE after an ultrasound. I can’t speak for anyone else but I think choosing for yourself makes the most sense. Let everyone else choose for themselves.

Have you ever had surgery on any other part of your body? As Thoughtful said cutting equals scar tissue. I’ve had my spine fused together and I get a Charlie horse ever time I yawn. Do you know why? Scar tissue. That’s one reason most Dr’s prefer surgery as a last resort.

You are correct on all points surgery will get you scar tissue but I will continue to look for better options.
All this PE excersize will also give you scar tissue
And doing PE for 8 years for 1 inch is a complete waste of time as you are doing more harm then good.

I mean do you see anyone here gaining 11 inches? It’s what every man is looking for the magic excersize when there is none. Nobody here is looking for an inch of gain in 5 years. Everyone wants 2 3 4 inches in 6 months but there are no options.

Like what? There’s PE or surgery. That’s it.

Says who? I just got ultrasounded. Not only do I have no scar tissue my penis is in such good health with excellent circulation I had a priapism after the procedure that needed to be treated my reaction to medicine was so positive.

Now you are making up things. I’ve done it ten years. Only better health each year. And I’ve seen pretty much no one who goes long term complain of worse erections. Either they stop PE because it isn’t working for them or they keep doing it because it is. No one keeps doing something that doesn’t work. That’s asinine.

If you gain an inch it isn’t a waste of time. You decide what’s worth your time. If you don’t want to do PE, fine. Plenty others do and will. And have to great success.

Most just want one inch. Maybe one and a half. They say the goal in their progress reports in fact. Read some. I’ve seen very few 11 inch goals written anywhere and even I’m only after 10 so …stop making things up.

People want an inch gain. Period. Either you put in the time or you don’t. Because there are no other options than surgery.

Pick for yourself but don’t try to speak for others or on that which you don’t know. That’s dumb and derailing Vash92s thread.

Start your own if you have something to talk about.

Vash,

TG is giving you the optimal advice to grow fast.
Even if this advice is a bit different then your current ideas… TG wants to to stay motivated a be successful with your PE journey (he can’t help himself, he is just that good of a guy).

I came up with the exact same idea as you have… while in the middle of seeing gains, I thought I could speed it up or make it better.
The results, I have posted numerous times my biggest PE mistake was changing things up while still seeing gains.
It may not happen to you but once my gains stopped I hit a wall that lasted months and months and never got the same momentum back. Maybe they were going to stop anyway… but I had a routine that was working and changed it.
That is one variable you don’t need to deal with.

Hang in there and congrats on your progress and success, that is outstanding!

Michael

Well i dont remember that i slowed down with any manual exercises, but what pushed me toward using devices was that my grip was becoming a weak link. I mean between working on construction job, training hard at the gym, my grip strength was an issue. Plus i felt like its easier to apply hear during hanging/pumping rather manual work.

My experience.