I Some Help With Phallosan

Hi guys! I’m new to the forum and appreciate everyone’s time and feedback!

I’m new to this and using a Phallosan Forte and Forte Plus. I keep having trouble with it though, and was hoping some of you might have some advice. Despite this being one of the safest options, I still frequently take it off and find much of the glans dark purple and sore. I’m using the protective cap and I have some free space in front of the bell, but no room on the sides and the large bell is too big to seal. I’m using a silicone sleeve over the shaft which might be impeding blood flow, but it’s impossible to keep a seal (even on the medium) for more than ten minutes without it. I’m at about 20-30 hours total so far and still can’t wear it comfortably for more than a couple of hours. Maybe this is just part of adjusting?

I appreciate your feedback on this and I’m glad to be joining the group!

Never had an issue with turning purple from the phallosan. When I check up on things I’m a pinkish & pale white color. I switch between the medium and large bell all the time. I always tape my glans with 3m pore tape and I use two or three layers on the urethra. I also used the protective tpe cap that it came with ( I’ve upgraded to long finger covers. For any bell you can match a sleeve that is up to one size off. This might help since you slip out the large. Make sure you penis is not greasy/oily. And make sure the sleeve is not oily. Wash the sleeves and bell with soap water regularly as needed. Corn starch can help with traction, but sometimes it does not work. Honestly I use it dry with no starch anymore.

If you’re turning purple, are you applying too much vacuum? You don’t need to inflate your glans all the way. One to two pumps should hold you in, all the other pumps are swelling the head. Are you applying too much tension? Use less till you are used to it. Heck, maybe just wear the bell with a bit of vacuum and see if you still turn purple. Lastly, what if you have an injury? Have you performed any other PE like jelqing a little too hard, such that bruising is present when pumped up?

I overdid it once in the beginning and gave myself a blister. Two weeks off and it healed right up. Putting on the bell without traction is a great idea. Isolate each part and test them one by one to see where the problem is.

I’ve been using a sleeve with the included protector cap, but an extra long finger thing might be a better idea. Less constriction.

I’ll try these things and check back in a few days and let you know how it went. Thanks!

I’ve gotten several blisters in the past few months. It was either due to not being conditioned, not enough protection from the vacuum, using the device too long at a tension too high, and moving my body in such a way throughout the day that causes high tension and stress. Now that I wrap with tape I’ve not had a problem. Also, when I’m doing very physical activity such as squats, climbing a ladder, any kind of heavy lifting for an extended duration I’m not wearing it.

Tiny blisters healed within two days for me because I applied a lot of thick coco butter and coconut oil, and wore boxer briefs to keep it from moving around and rubbing.

What kind of tape do you use?

As I said, I am really new to this. Not sure what or how to tape.

I may be preaching to the choir here, but in my experience the biggest safety key is to use the protective cap and to ensure the head is all the way to the top of the bell, and that you use a bell size with little to no room left. I sometimes need to take time to work it back and forth, etc., to get it all into the bell, then pump to complete the contact. I think the blister danger comes with space between the bell and the head, especially if using a higher tension.

I have gone though a few different time periods with the Phallosan (never yet to the full 1000 hours level), with one a few years ago where I started using the device without the protective cap (after a few weeks acclimation). I got to a point that I could not wedge the head all the way up, but pumped it anyway, seemingly to create the full contact seal.wrong. A few hours later I went to adjust and the blood and other fluids just oozed out, with much of the skin on the head having lifted off as torn blisters. Not good, and a multi-week heal. So, never again without a protector cap, and always make sure the head is in as full contact as possible with the bell interior pre-pump.

If you are losing a seal, it likely means you need to go with a smaller bell for now, perhaps a size down on the condom/sleeve too. You could also try using a flexible cock ring (not so small as to unduly constrict the blood) at the bottom of the sleeve above the roll/ridge. It may help prevent air escape too.

You’re right about the trouble sizing. I wish I could size down, but I don’t fit in the small bell, so that doesn’t work. Then when I go fully flaccid the normal falls off unless I’m wearing a sleeve.

That story about going without the cap sounds awful. I tried using the plus under high tension for six hours on my third day using it. Even with the cap I had a blood blister on the urethra and a big regular blister on the side. Not as bad as yours, but I understand your pain. Moisturize and a couple of weeks off. Not much else to do.

I hadn’t tried fully inserting into the bell. The instructions say half way but I’ve definitely come to appreciate that those instructions don’t work for everyone. I’ll give that a shot.

I still get the white on the tip of the glans.. It also gets hard. I must be wearing it too long although it doesn’t happen every time

You guys have to read the whole post, as it says it up above. Also, you don’t need to fill the bell if you tape. Tape provides protection and compression. Tape the glans and shaft so it’s not exposed to vacuum.

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Good news! I found a workaround!

The problem has been that the medium bell is not large enough, so the glans was pressed against the edges, but the large wouldn’t stay on flaccid. I doubled up on the silicon sleeves to keep it sealed when I’m flaccid. Works perfectly. Now I can wear the plus under high tension for hours at a time without trouble.

My suggestion would be to use the large bell with a medium sleeve. I too was having an issue with the wrong size bell. I wasn’t turning purple but once I pumped it a couple of times, I would fill up the medium bell completely and it caused discomfort. When I switched to the large bell, I also switched to the large sleeve. After a few minutes, I would lose vacuum due to the large sleeve being too loose once stretched. After I placed the medium sleeve on the large bell, I found my perfect fit.

I’m on day 28 and just crossed the 200 hour mark. Just another piece of advice.. If using large bell/medium sleeve combination, make sure to powder the sleeve every couple of days and roll it as far as possible before stretching it over the bell. Many people have issues with the sleeve breaking and I could see this combination leading to quicker sleeve breakage. So far I have been fortunate not to break one.

Their sleeves are absolutely trash. If you put a medium sleeve on a large bell, I guarantee you it snaps within 4 weeks at most. I snapped so many of their garbage sleeves. I wish I remembered who makes the replacement sleeve I’m using, but it’s a much thicker, much stretchier, and much cheaper silicone sleeve. I’m sure you can find some links searching the forums.

Hi please how do you double up the sleeves condom? I’m trying to figure it out but have no clue and I don’t have the plus is it still possible to do it ?

Reviving this thread as it seems better to aggregate info in one place IMO.

I’m about 2 weeks into using the Phallosan. I can keep it on between 1-3 hours before discomfort.

I’m using a large bell and large sleeve with occasional loss of seal. I just started using a velcro cable tie to gently cynch around the sleeve and is seems to be enough extra traction to hold a seal.

I’m also trying to keep tension just into the red, but it varies if I’m sitting or standing.

Getting the protective cup on has been a little difficult but I’m getting better at it. So far best success has been t use 4 fingers to fully open the cup and touch the tip of my glans to the end of the cup. I can just shimmy into the large cup .

My real problem is getting out of the device if I have to pee or am just too uncomfortable. Rolling the sleeve back onto the bell invariably ends up with me rolling some skin into the sleeve, ouch.

Any advice on removing the sleeve would be appreciated.

So I cut the end off of a comfort cap to make a tube/sleeve. I put on the cap, then right next to it put on the tube.

This is fixing a few problems for me.

I previously had rolled some skin into the condom when rolling the condom over the bell to remove. The sleeve protects this skin, no more issue.

I was also loosing suction on occasion with the condom. Now the condom makes a better seal with the sleeve.

I’ve been pumping shortly after removing the Phallosan (typically 2 hours at high tension). Following pumping I’m getting a more pronounced doughnut (increasing pump pressure as I acclimate). I use the sleeve afterward to decompress the edema. 45-60 minutes of the sleeve pretty much does it.

Lastly removing the Phallosan has become easier with the sleeve. My new process is to remove the pump. Hook the loop from the belt around a doorknob and couple to the bell. Step backwards so my penis and the whole rig is pulling directly outward. I can then more easily roll the condom towards the bell. The condom/bell will release before needing to completely roll the condom onto the bell. The only thing to remember is to hold onto the bell when near release or it’ll slingshot to the door which has the risk of breaking something. I learned this after a couple of “shots”, thankfully no damage.