Stretcher's or Traction Forum?

I am not terribly aware of all of what’s out there in terms of threads pertaining to devices that stretch or operate on principle of traction (e.g. Penimaster, JES Extender, etc.). However, I was curious why, after a few months, I haven’t seen more threads concerning such devices, or for that matter, why is there not a Stretcher’s or Traction Forum? Before going further, let me say, I am truly asking a question and not just whining, as I would not have the time to create/monitor such a forum let alone the expertise or "credentials" to do so.

Nonetheless, witness exhibit 1: UK.COM, a website that seems to offer some pretty good, no nonsense advice regarding penis enlargement, and in its comparison table clearly seems to favor traction devices as being either the best way or among the best ways (outside of surgery) to effaciously and permanently achieve PE.

Ok, anyone want to step in here and blow me away with where the goldmine of traction threads exist, or tell me why there doesn’t seem to be a critical mass of people who want to have a forum such as the pumpers and hangers do?

Evolving,

Holy crap the JES is £500? I knew it was expensive but fuck! I shall invent my own SS4Xtender, to be on sale very soon! Hmm maybe not.

I think traction device is a pretty word for ADS, or All Day Stretch. Check out the search feature at the top right of the screen.

From the top of my head I can think of the zeke stretcher and lil1’s thera band stretcher (in tutorials forum), but several members have contributed their own excellent designs for ADS devices, that you build youself.

SS4

I take it by your response there is not such an actual traction, stretcher or ADS forum, because there is not an inexpensive traction device that has thoroughly proven itself or captured the imagination of PE’ers in general in this space. In other words, am I correct in picking up on an undercurrent in your response akin to: why promote a device or devices that only serves the commerical interest of some unaffiliated member or organization, particularly if that device has an extraordinary cost?

Well, at the risk of sounding unimaginative (unAmerican?), let me say I have come to trust the JES Extender (a Danish product), in part because there are some many doctors who are behind its development, have lectured on it, or have prescribed it, and in general, the company has an ingenious design and wonderful customer service (e.g. you can ask questions of their doctors at any time and get a response relatively soon—tell me what other method has that kind of backing?). All of this has occurred in Europe though, which raises the question in my mind, if the device’s Euro origin/nature in fact constitutes a subtle yet significant drawback for Americans, i.e. the bulk of this space’s membership.

Lest I be misunderstood, I am not saying this device is a God-send or that people ought to rush to buy it, and in terms of my own experience, I believe jelqing is an essential component that cannot be substituted ultimately (complemented yes but not done away with). And, to be honest, I have only seen a small gain at this juncture after using the device for about a month and a half—but that’s something.

So, here’s my point: the fact that prevalence of the device has mainly occurred in Europe perhaps ought to alert American PE’ers that if it seems we are trying very hard (too hard?) with our home-grown ways, perhaps this is due in large part to the predominantly anti-PE culture in this country, i.e. an anti-PE, pro-surgery paradigm within the medical community. And, we all know how powerful that segment of our society is.

As an afterthought, from what I can tell by all accounts I’ve seen, it is the only formally documented way of actually achieving PE outside of surgery.

We actually discuss such things a lot, but you have to look for them. Here’s an overview:

Definitive ADS by Stevie31

Thank you so much Piet for the thread, this is wonderful. I will take some time to digest the various corollaries. Preliminarily, I think it’s interesting how once again, there is no mention of the JES Extender, which I believe is further evidence that the device’s cost has amounted to relatively few of our members having invested in it. Nonetheless, more information is better than less, and you were generous to provide this thread.

Evolving,

>I take it by your response there is not such an actual traction, stretcher or ADS forum, because there is not an inexpensive traction device that has thoroughly proven itself or captured the imagination of PE’ers in general in this space.<

I do not know why there is no stretcher forum. It’s not a bad idea but I wonder how much traffic it would get. The ADS threads are mostly in Main and Hangers, so this should help you narrow down your searches.

>In other words, am I correct in picking up on an undercurrent in your response akin to: why promote a device or devices that only serves the commerical interest of some unaffiliated member or organization, particularly if that device has an extraordinary cost? <

No not at all. IMO, the JES has extraordinary cost especially when you can make a decent ADS device for like, 2% of the cost. I don’t believe having a discussion forum dedicated to a particular type of PE would constitute promoting either. There’s a pumping forum and a hanging forum, for instance, and both carry discussion on commercial and home made devices.

>and in general, the company has an ingenious design and wonderful customer service (e.g. you can ask questions of their doctors at any time and get a response relatively soon—tell me what other method has that kind of backing?).<

For £500 I should damn well hope so! :)

>And, to be honest, I have only seen a small gain at this juncture after using the device for about a month and a half—but that’s something. <

Congrats - Any result after 6 weeks is great news.

>So, here’s my point: the fact that prevalence of the device has mainly occurred in Europe perhaps ought to alert American PE’ers that if it seems we are trying very hard (too hard?) with our home-grown ways, perhaps this is due in large part to the predominantly anti-PE culture in this country, i.e. an anti-PE, pro-surgery paradigm within the medical community. And, we all know how powerful that segment of our society is. <

Umm, I agree with you completely.

Here are a bunch of threads that contain discussion of the JES extender, for you to look at if you wish. I hope this link will work OK:

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SS4

I am all for such a forum. The forum would need a good leader like Bib and hanging and A8 and pumping. lil might be the one for the job if he wants it.

It could aways be removed in a few months if it didn’t get any traffic. The posts could just merged with gd.

Cheers,
PS

SS4, wow this great. I guess I could have performed this search myself, but once again, the spirit of generous feedback that is the hallmark of this space rings true. I have bookmarked your link (i.e. search results), and I will thoroughly examine its wealth of discourse in the days, weeks and months to come. As a thought, and as PirateSteve pointed out in a different thread, if this device does indeed offer consistent 1/8 inch BP length gain per month (on average), then its price in my mind is definitely worth it.

Why? Because I have a deadline, which involves a special young lady I haven’t yet met but will and whom I’ve come to realize strongly desires at least a 9” inch cock. And, what’s more (worse?), expects that I do have that size, which is a whole another story which may be the subject of another thread some time soon. In any event, I have an 8.125” cock right now, and by my calculations given my August 2004 target month (i.e. the month we are to meet for the first time), I should make or exceed my goal by then. In other words, having the JES Extender is truly a God-send for me, because my circumstances require predictability of gains despite PE being an inherently unpredictable endeavor.

Cheers to both you and Piet for being so thoughtful in your responses!