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Effectiveness comparison between Bib and Vac Hanging?

Originally Posted by hofferman
Does 10 kg shopping bag weight equal normal hanging weight? Think 10 kg / 22 lbs is kinda alot for 1 month. Also I wouldn’t overrate newbie gains cause it’s mostly adaption like improved EQ other things but this something for another topic lol. Starting phase is all about conditioning for the “real” stuff.

Personally I prefer vac hanging. I started with compression hanger but it’s too much work to adjust an slippage still happens and other problems like numbness. Sometimes it takes too much time and I just stop cause I’m cold again. Very annoying. Vac hanging is much more consistent and plannable. Don’t think being uncut is that much of a problem here except for edema. Would always use a silicone cap cause it’s more comfortable with its cushion effect. Also depends on how many breaks you take. I don’t do any and pay with edema. If you take complete breaks (take off and massage) then you might notice no side effects at all. If youre errection level stays the same all time then it’s even better. You could tryout both hangers if money is no problem. Otherwise go for vac hanger cause it’s cheap and also usable as an ADS.

I started with 4 kg and built myself up to 10 kg over 40 days. Earlier I wasn’t taking any rest days but now I have to because of the heavy weights (2 days on 1 day off). I’d say my penis is well conditioned to handle 10 kg because I can easily go for a longer session but my hands start hurting after 20 mins. I agree that 10 kg is a lot for a newbie like me but then my penis can handle it and I’m also getting awesome results.

I don’t know what exactly you mean by “silicone cap.” I’m gonna buy a Phallosan Forte anyway so I guess I can just hang the weights using it.

So you microtape and then wear the “silicone cap” on top, correct? Also, what do you mean by “erection level stays the same”? Aren’t you supposed to hang while completely flaccid?


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Originally Posted by thisistheway
I started with 4 kg and built myself up to 10 kg over 40 days. Earlier I wasn’t taking any rest days but now I have to because of the heavy weights (2 days on 1 day off). I’d say my penis is well conditioned to handle 10 kg because I can easily go for a longer session but my hands start hurting after 20 mins. I agree that 10 kg is a lot for a newbie like me but then my penis can handle it and I’m also getting awesome results.

I don’t know what exactly you mean by “silicone cap.” I’m gonna buy a Phallosan Forte anyway so I guess I can just hang the weights using it.

So you microtape and then wear the “silicone cap” on top, correct? Also, what do you mean by “erection level stays the same”? Aren’t you supposed to hang while completely flaccid?


Silicone cap is that condom and comes on top after taping. Phallosan is fine for this if money is no problem. Should be also the better ADS option.

And yes the dick should be flaccid but sometimes I get little hard and other times I get more flaccid than I was before attaching. Then the condom likes to fall off and could cause edema. If you have no problem staying flaccid all time then you should be ok.

I’m not sure if your weight equal normal hanging weights starting with 4 kg is already more than what I hang now and the pull is noticeable. Some here hang with low weights for months with good results. Do you hold dick and shopping bag at the same time? Sounds more like the effective weight and stress is halved compared to other hanging methods. Then it would make more sense. Never forget that fatigue is important. I was also tempted to increase weight when I didn’t feel challenged enough. People like to say here that you want a longer dick, not stronger. Reading the Hanging 101 thread is a good start if you didn’t already.


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Originally Posted by hofferman
Silicone cap is that condom and comes on top after taping. Phallosan is fine for this if money is no problem. Should be also the better ADS option.

And yes the dick should be flaccid but sometimes I get little hard and other times I get more flaccid than I was before attaching. Then the condom likes to fall off and could cause edema. If you have no problem staying flaccid all time then you should be ok.

I’m not sure if your weight equal normal hanging weights starting with 4 kg is already more than what I hang now and the pull is noticeable. Some here hang with low weights for months with good results. Do you hold dick and shopping bag at the same time? Sounds more like the effective weight and stress is halved compared to other hanging methods. Then it would make more sense. Never forget that fatigue is important. I was also tempted to increase weight when I didn’t feel challenged enough. People like to say here that you want a longer dick, not stronger. Reading the Hanging 101 thread is a good start if you didn’t already.

The only thing I’m concerned about is if Phallosan can handle 3+ kg.

Yeah, I agree that stress is less for manual hanging compared to proper hanging as the weight is not directly attached to the dick. However, I’m not sure by how much and I’d like to know that as well.


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Originally Posted by thisistheway
The only thing I’m concerned about is if Phallosan can handle 3+ kg.

Yeah, I agree that stress is less for manual hanging compared to proper hanging as the weight is not directly attached to the dick. However, I’m not sure by how much and I’d like to know that as well.


If your’e lucky then your shopping bag might produce way less stress and you can slowly build up with vac hanging. I’m about 4 kg and not 3 and it’s still kinda okish.


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Originally Posted by hofferman
If your’e lucky then your shopping bag might produce way less stress and you can slowly build up with vac hanging. I’m about 4 kg and not 3 and it’s still kinda okish.

At 10 kg with manual hanging (I use a school bag), it feels as if my dick is literally being ripped out of my pubic bone (I don’t know if it’s accurate but you get the point) for the first few seconds and sometimes there has even been a click just like when guys crack their fingers. However, this feeling goes away after about 10 - 20 seconds and I feel much more comfortable hanging 10 kg. The only thing is that my hands start hurting after 10 mins so I have to divide my hanging session into 2x10 mins sets.


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I have a couple questions about back hanging I hope you don’t mind if I ask in this thread.

I think the first one is since it seems like you’re just pulling on the crown or head and I don’t know how the main arteries inside are connected, is there a potential of pulling the head free or overstretching whatever attaches it to the shaft? Or is it all one piece where you pull on one part it pulls on all of it?

Does the sleeve grab and pull the skin that it touches over the head or it all moves evenly?

And for both the VAC type and clasping or clamp type as far as blood flow, is blood flow restricted by either one to any great degree? So if there is a little room for blood to pump is that good enough? Or are you essentially trapping the same blood behind the clamp or cuff for the duration of your exercise? That one kind of seems like a dumb question but I don’t really know how vascular flow really works.


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Originally Posted by hofferman
Silicone cap is that condom and comes on top after taping. Phallosan is fine for this if money is no problem. Should be also the better ADS option.

And yes the dick should be flaccid but sometimes I get little hard and other times I get more flaccid than I was before attaching. Then the condom likes to fall off and could cause edema. If you have no problem staying flaccid all time then you should be ok.

I’m not sure if your weight equal normal hanging weights starting with 4 kg is already more than what I hang now and the pull is noticeable. Some here hang with low weights for months with good results. Do you hold dick and shopping bag at the same time? Sounds more like the effective weight and stress is halved compared to other hanging methods. Then it would make more sense. Never forget that fatigue is important. I was also tempted to increase weight when I didn’t feel challenged enough. People like to say here that you want a longer dick, not stronger. Reading the Hanging 101 thread is a good start if you didn’t already.

look for “toe caps” made for blisters etc on big toe.

The only injury I’ve had while hanging was cuts from wrapping too tight using a Bib, cuts were scary deep. No issues with vac hanger. Don’t hang more than 12 lb. though.

Originally Posted by Iaintliein
The only injury I’ve had while hanging was cuts from wrapping too tight using a Bib, cuts were scary deep. No issues with vac hanger. Don’t hang more than 12 lb. though.

I have a question for you since you have experience with both compression and vac hanging. For a given weight, say 10 kg, does vac hanging fatigue the penis more/quicker than compression hanging?

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These are very different tools. A vac hanger is great for low and medium weight. Once you go higher, you need to think about a compression hanger. Vac hangers are easy to use, compression hangers have a steep learning curve. Vac hangers probably expose more of the penis to the stretch than compression hangers but that’s a potentially debatable point, depending on how the compression hanger sits and what it’s grasping.


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Originally Posted by thisistheway
I have a question for you since you have experience with both compression and vac hanging. For a given weight, say 10 kg, does vac hanging fatigue the penis more/quicker than compression hanging?

May the gains be with you!

I’ve never gone higher than 5 Kg and doubt vac hanger would hold 10, at least my cheap one won’t. Main advantage I can see for vac is no wrapping (only microfoam tape and toe cup over glans) and it does allow for longer periods and more comfort BTC vs bulkier hangers.

Originally Posted by memento
These are very different tools. A vac hanger is great for low and medium weight. Once you go higher, you need to think about a compression hanger. Vac hangers are easy to use, compression hangers have a steep learning curve. Vac hangers probably expose more of the penis to the stretch than compression hangers but that’s a potentially debatable point, depending on how the compression hanger sits and what it’s grasping.

Is it possible to get more fatigue with a compression hanger from a given weight, say 10 kg, without adding fulcrum? If yes, how?


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Fulcrums will be a lot harder with a compression hanger because the hanger takes up dick space you’d use for the fulcrum. Other than that a weight is a weight and a fulcrum is a fulcrum. Fatigue is a function of weight and time, so potentially if you can do more time with a vac hanger, you can get to fatigue through that route.


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I’ve been using a vac hanger for over an year and I don’t tape and I’ve never got blister or whatever other issues.

Just going slow and steady. When the weight no longer makes any effect I go on a week or 2 decon break instead of increasing weight. I don’t know how effective this is for gains but keeps me away from injuries.

Originally Posted by memento
Fulcrums will be a lot harder with a compression hanger because the hanger takes up dick space you’d use for the fulcrum. Other than that a weight is a weight and a fulcrum is a fulcrum. Fatigue is a function of weight and time, so potentially if you can do more time with a vac hanger, you can get to fatigue through that route.

This doesn’t answer my question. You said, and I quote, “Vac hangers probably expose more of the penis to the stretch than compression hangers but that’s a potentially debatable point, depending on how the compression hanger sits and what it’s grasping.” What adjustments or settings one needs to do to get the same amount of fatigue from a compression hanger as a vac hanger?


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