FIRe load calculator

As my way to give back to the community I have developed https://www.fir … dcalculator.net
Use this website to determine how much weight you should use in you FIRe hanging session. The website will tell you the weights your need for your 0.1mpa, 0.17mpa, and any custom mpa you chose.

The reason I built this site is because a lot of people ( including myself ) have had issues with Kypra’s Excell sheet. By making an on-line calculator, I hope to better preserver Kypra’s work. I did my best to reverse engineer Kypra’s spreadsheet, however, there may still be issues with it. If anyone has any issues using the website, or you notice the numbers are not correct, please post them in this thread and I will update the site accordingly.

I tried to make the website as simple as possible. There are no logins or bullshit ads. It is just a client-side calculator written in Javascript. As of right now, the website will only give you your weights in kilograms. Once I have some more time on my hands, I will add an option for pounds.

*Kypra, if you have any issues with the website, please let me know*

I just hope you’ve made the calculations correctly.

Works for me!

Thanks for doing this!

Just a question regarding the measurement. I know it has been answered somewhere but wanted to double check. Is the circumference measurement supposed to be stretched flaccid or just flaccid?

I believe it is just flaccid.

The calculator is back online. I had some issues with the web server over the weekend, but everything is good to go now. If the website goes back down, please let me know.

This calculator might be one of the most valuable tools on this forum. I believe that between .9- and 1.1 Mpa one enters the plastic region.

Thanks man. That makes me feel good. I didn’t know how well the web app would be received.
I don’t remember hearing anything about 0.9mpa and 1.1mpa. Do you know where you found that??
Also, I will update the site with the mpa for min (0.01) and max (0.17) mpa when I get the chance.

Was this a necessary post? Please explain your post as this comes off as negative. It’s pretty easy to compare accuracy with the original excel version of the load calculator.

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I got this off a post a while back by a member here called "Shiver."

Deformation: Intensity, Method and Recovery guidelines

The stress is divided into four bands which are defined very roughly as follows:

A <80N (<18lbs)
B 80-180N (18-40lbs)
C 180-280N (40-63lbs)
D >280N (>63lbs)

From these four bands, they have four types of therapy intensity/duration which are listed below with some key points:

Area S1: defined as all of band A
Stimulates fibrocytes to maintain length; until the first slight feeling of stretch. If held for a few minutes the feeling of stretch goes away (accommodates). If sustained for 20 – 30 minutes will signal fibrocytes to remodel tissue longer (sustained low load stretch). Very effective at signaling fibroblasts to remodel collagen in late inflammatory/ early proliferative phase.

Exercise: Daily - eg. ADS

Area S2: defined as lower half of band B
The elastic range actual stretching; some fibers slip, some bonds break, some fibers denature.
If sustained for 20 – 30 minutes will signal fibrocytes to remodel tissue longer (sustained low load stretch) but is difficult to tolerate for 20-30 minutes.

Exercise: Needs at least one day rest between bouts. eg. Hanging/Stretching

Area S3: defined as upper part of band B and small part of band C
Works in the elastic range and a bit of the plastic range; significant stretching; many fibers slip, bonds break, some fibers denature. Stimulates fibrocytes to remodel tissue longer with time. Painful stretch, hard tolerate.

Exercise: Needs at least one day rest between bouts(!?!). eg. Possibly stretching, though a little on the extreme side for most.

Area S4: defined as middle of band C
Not practiced by physical therapists (occasionally by surgeons with anesthesia or unconscious patients!)

Excercise: N/A to us

I think there may be a bit of confusion. I believe the link you just posted is more geared towards heavy hanging.

The web calculator I built is for people using FIRe routines with ultrasound or infrared heating. As you may already know, the purpose of the FIRe routines is to enter the plastic region with as little weight as possible.

Take a look at the link below if you are interested. Post #4 has Kyrpa’s spreadsheet. That is what I reverse engineered to create the web calculator.

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Spectral88,

The cool thing about your calculator is that it is a quick and easy way to calculate just that, the heavier loads.

As far as the plastic region, it is my opinion that only at the heavier weights do you enter this region. I also believe that FIRe at most is lowering that entry level weight about 20-25%.

I think Spectral’s calculator comes in handy for non heat application as well. Thanks Spectral for making it user friendly.

I added a few fixes to the calculator:

1. I fixed the minimum weight to 0.1 MPa. (it was at 0.01)

2. Added pounds to the weight.

Awesome!