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FIRe load calculator

Great job.

Thank you for this tool!

Originally Posted by sublime311
Thank you for this tool!

No problem. I’m glad to help.
Did the audio work for you??

Originally Posted by Spectral88
I think there may be a bit of confusion. I believe the link you just posted is more geared towards heavy hanging.
The web calculator I built is for people using FIRe routines with ultrasound or infrared heating. As you may already know, the purpose of the FIRe routines is to enter the plastic region with as little weight as possible.
Take a look at the link below if you are interested. Post #4 has Kyrpa’s spreadsheet. That is what I reverse engineered to create the web calculator.
The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Thanks for this calculator. This is a much appreciated contribution.
At the moment I am preparing my next training phase and therefore collecting all values.
I compared your load calculator with Kyrpä’s and I get different values.

Examples with your calculator:
Circumference 90 mm:
0,10 MPa: 1,43 kg
0,17 MPa: 2,44 kg

Circumference 100 mm:
0,10 MPa: 1,59 kg
0,17 MPa: 2,71 kg

Kyrpä’s calculator results in other values:
Circumference 90 mm:
0,10 MPa: 1,12 kg
0,17 MPa: 1,90 kg

Circumference 100 mm:
0,10 MPa: 1,38 kg
0,17 MPa: 2,35 kg

Fdersby confirms Kyrpä’s values here: fdersby - The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Could it be that something went wrong when transferring the formulas? If you open Kyrpä’s Excel, you should not update it.

Originally Posted by Rocco25
Thanks for this calculator. This is a much appreciated contribution.
At the moment I am preparing my next training phase and therefore collecting all values.
I compared your load calculator with Kyrpä’s and I get different values.

Examples with your calculator:
Circumference 90 mm:
0,10 MPa: 1,43 kg
0,17 MPa: 2,44 kg

Circumference 100 mm:
0,10 MPa: 1,59 kg
0,17 MPa: 2,71 kg

Kyrpä’s calculator results in other values:
Circumference 90 mm:
0,10 MPa: 1,12 kg
0,17 MPa: 1,90 kg

Circumference 100 mm:
0,10 MPa: 1,38 kg
0,17 MPa: 2,35 kg

Fdersby confirms Kyrpä’s values here: fdersby - The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Could it be that something went wrong when transferring the formulas? If you open Kyrpä’s Excel, you should not update it.

I downloaded Kypra’s calculator and entered the values you provided. I then compared them to my calculator, and the totals matched (I attached a screenshot for demonstration). I’m not sure how you got those numbers to be honest with you. Maybe there is an difference between how Excel handles the data compared to Open Office?
When I created the app, I copied Kypra’s formulas as much as possible. Since parts of his spreadsheet were hosted on “docs.live.net” it was impossible to straight copy his formulas. With that said, I went to his post, and looked at some of the charts he had provided to help me fill in the missing values. I do believe my values are correct, but there is a chance I missed something.
Also, I did reach out to Kypra a few months ago about the project, but he has yet to respond. I assume he hasn’t been on Thunders in a long time. It would be nice to get some clarity for the man himself.

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Thanks for the clarification, now I understand where the different interpretations come from.

Your calculator refers to the calculation based on coefficient “c” and for this value everything fits, also to the values from Kyrpä’s Excel file. Sorry for the confusion.

I was focusing on the smaller number (five lines higher in your screenshot), that is the calculation with coefficient “a”. Apparently fdersby did the same thing.
I read again, the calculation by method “c” had the highest correlation and is therefore to be preferred.

But since we are exchanging anyway, I would also like to talk about your timer. Again, thank you for taking the time to implement this! It works fine for me.
Do you think it would be possible to save the own schedule? For example in a txt file or something. Otherwise I would have to re-enter it every time and since I use a total of 20 weights (I work with many weights in small steps), that is quite a lot of effort every time. Thanks!

It should save your last session, and load it each time you visit. Are you using a private tab ….(Chome’s “Incognito Mode” or Firefox’s Private Window)?

Originally Posted by Spectral88
It should save your last session, and load it each time you visit. Are you using a private tab ….(Chome’s “Incognito Mode” or Firefox’s Private Window)?

It works. Good job!

Originally Posted by Rocco25
It works. Good job!

No problem. I am glad everything works out. You had me worried for a minute!

Originally Posted by Spectral88
You had me worried for a minute!

Sorry for that, this was not my intention. As said, I really appreciate your contribution!

Originally Posted by Rocco25
Sorry for that, this was not my intention. As said, I really appreciate your contribution!

I’m glad to hear that. This app was a small way for me to give back to the community, so I am happy it helped.

Just a general question to anyone using this method, when do you increase the weight that you are using? Is it after you stop gaining at a certain weight or is it based on time?

Others might chime in here, but I’ve seen multiple reasons for it. Some do it when their gains stall. Others do it after a cycle/decon. I think it just depends.

For me personally, I try not to increase the weight unless my gains come to a halt.

Originally Posted by Bombastik
Just a general question to anyone using this method, when do you increase the weight that you are using? Is it after you stop gaining at a certain weight or is it based on time?

I agree with Spectral88 on the multiple reasons. I do think that one must chase the fatigue. If your current weight is not creating any discomfort it is time to increase the weight. Like with everything there is no change without conflict.

Note: Discomfort doe NOT equate PAIN.

Here are a few ways to do it.

A)Monday increase- You up the weight every week by a predetermined amount, usually 1 pound but it could be less.

B)Start with a lighter weight first set and then increase to work weight (that you can increase on a weekly or every few days depending on the fatigue)

C)Start with work weight and then slowly decrease as you ride the fatigue.

Need Help Accessing Calculator

Hey guys,
I haven’t been able to find a functioning calculator. Whether Krypas or Spectral 88. The links don’t work.

Does anyone have a working link or a way to use the calculator so I can start this training. Thank you

Sean

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