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The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Spreadsheet

Could we please have a version of the spreadsheet compatible with Open Office?


The time for procrastination is NOW! Start date: 2005/3/15 BPEL 5" EG 5.25" 2005/05/17 BPEL 6.5" EG 5.5"

Originally Posted by Rbrockp92

Please dumb it down for me so I can an idea of what I need to do. I’m sorry I don’t understand. Also, do I use heat or no? I apologize for not understanding

Did you read the post immediately before you posted this?


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
Did you read the post immediately before you posted this?

Instead of being so TOXIC and mocking others members, why dont you simply ignore him or either help him. WHAT about that?. You are not being an objective moderator here.

Like many people come to this forums via mobile phone and most of them are NOT GONNA READ 300 pages or random posts that lead to nowhere. Even though people read it, not everyone is as “brilliant as you are”, imagine if teachers did this to students. Many people are confused, and is a very complicated subject what kyrpa & tutt and others are explainning.


Originally Posted by Rbrockp92
I’m just trying to understand, I apologize, how exactly do we calculate the weight needed for our size? And we need to use heat to help it? I respect your knowledge on this subject and I just want to have the complete idea, I’m sorry to be a bother

Its very simple friend. Dont bow your head to no man, and neither apologize, you have questions like many of us. You can go to igigi´s thread or Cbatesman thread they are really helpful they will answer most of your questions. Specially CBATES.

1. You download the spreadsheet.

2. You measure behind your RS* circumference (Retroglandular sulcus-Corona of glans penis, the part where your glans connects to your shaft, the thinnest part of your penis if you are circumcised)

3. In the spreadsheet input on C1 your circumference in MM

4. Load: it will tell your maximum load according to your size.

EG:
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0.17 MPa at 90mm ~1,90 kg.
0.10 MPa at 90mm ~ 1,12 kg.
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0.10 MPa at 100mm ~ 1,38 kg.
0.17 MPa at 100mm ~ 2,35 kg.
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5. Do not exceed 0,17MPa as tutt and kyrpa, or whatever post it was, stated that it toughens your septum.

6. Kyrpa said that using a clamp + ultrasound unit heating up to 42ºC doubled the oxygen uptake. And that he achieved a bigger engorgement that way. But again, is spread across multiple posts, years and pages…so try reading 300 pages with multiple posts to extract information ^^



Last edited by fdersby8 : 04-10-2022 at .

Originally Posted by fdersby8
Instead of being so TOXIC and mocking others members, why dont you simply ignore him or either help him. WHAT about that?. You are not being an objective moderator here.

Like many people come to this forums via mobile phone and most of them are NOT GONNA READ 300 pages or random posts that lead to nowhere. Even though people read it, not everyone is as “brilliant as you are”, imagine if teachers did this to students. Many people are confused, and is a very complicated subject what kyrpa & tutt and others are explainning.


Thanks for the laugh fdersby.

I am in fact helping him out. I did help him. I pointed out the answer to his question was in the post immediately before his. If you feel the need to re post what someone else has previously posted then by all means go for it.

As a general statement, members who are unwilling to to try and help themselves by reading and searching through the information here will quickly burn through other member’s good will of answering their numerous questions. Members who read the information have a better understanding of the processes they are interested in, have a better understanding of the forum over all and become more engaged members.

New members need to be educated on what is expected of them so they can become self reliant and more engaged.

Generally one doesnt need to read “all 300” pages of a thread. The first one or two pages presents the material so do need to be read in more detail and the remainder can be skimmed through searching for the questions they have that in high likelyhood have already been asked, typically asked more than once. And the more technical the subject is may require multiple readings to understand it.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
Thanks for the laugh fdersby.

I am in fact helping him out. I did help him. I pointed out the answer to his question was in the post immediately before his. If you feel the need to re post what someone else has previously posted then by all means go for it.

As a general statement, members who are unwilling to to try and help themselves by reading and searching through the information here will quickly burn through other member’s good will of answering their numerous questions. Members who read the information have a better understanding of the processes they are interested in, have a better understanding of the forum over all and become more engaged members.

New members need to be educated on what is expected of them so they can become self reliant and more engaged.

Generally one doesnt need to read “all 300” pages of a thread. The first one or two pages presents the material so do need to be read in more detail and the remainder can be skimmed through searching for the questions they have that in high likelyhood have already been asked, typically asked more than once. And the more technical the subject is may require multiple readings to understand it.

Thanks for clarifying it.


Originally Posted by Kyrpa

Attached calculator in .xls format

Is there anyway someone can upload the load calculator to Google Drive? I try to open in excel it says the file is corrupted. It repaired but not sure if it is calculating correctly.

Much appreciated!

Originally Posted by sublime311
Is there anyway someone can upload the load calculator to Google Drive? I try to open in excel it says the file is corrupted. It repaired but not sure if it is calculating correctly.

Much appreciated!


Download it and save it to your harddrive under new name, then open it. Don’t update links. Should work. This is what I did.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Thank you so much sir!

Also do we take the values under A2 or A3 section? They are slightly different values.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
The most correlating relation was found with the coefficient c.
The circumferences correlating stunningly with an average factor of 1.3±0.02.
Having such uniform data and minuscule standard error it would be an easy case if there were accurate enough data available on tunica thickness.

There is only a handful of research prevailing the data, only one of them showing a decent amount of data points.
Combining all the available info showing average thickness of 2.4,2.4, 2.4, 1.4, and 1.5 mm,
We end up having an average of 2.05±0.9 mm TA thickness for calculations.

The second-best coefficient being coefficient a, with an average factor of 5.83±0.21.
Using these two as an example I went to calculate the cross-sectional area of my TA.
The results were amazingly cohesive with the load-strain curve plotted in action.
The threshold points were spot on as I have found the intersection of the heel to the elastic region being at 3.2-3.5 kg of load, the calculation with the 0.17 MPa resulted in 3.4 ±0.7 kg.

Section A2 is calculated by using coefficient a, section A3 is calculated by coefficient c. This quote is cited from post #1 of this thread. These coefficients are used to approximate the circumference of YOUR very OWN Tunica Albuginea - based on your measurement. I personally believe that in the end your calculated strain percentage is decisive for your choice of weight. The weights given in A2 and A3 are a practical guideline for you to gain without unnecessary weight and hence unbeneficial strain
Please be aware that I might not have fully grasped the science around TA but noone answered Your Question, sublime331

How much time is recommended for cooling?

Going back to the original Study

I am new to this forum and PE in general and find the topic both fascinating and this forum very informative

I really like KYRPA’s post and reference to a 2019 study on Elastic and Relaxation of human tunica Albuginea. I think this was a fantastic job and the co

Since I have some time I read the study and didn’t fully understand it but I am sure KYRPA was on to something with the load Kg recommendations, in his calculator

However looking through the study I noticed an age related effect, Distal Thickness decreased with age , Proximal thickness increased linearly with age, of course the sample size was small

I am not sure how this fits into the load calculator but I thought I would raise the point, as I am 55 and have parts that will shrink , if I don’t take care a lot of things will shrink and I am determined to make them grow

Originally Posted by Grow to Show
I am new to this forum and PE in general and find the topic both fascinating and this forum very informative

I really like KYRPA’s post and reference to a 2019 study on Elastic and Relaxation of human tunica Albuginea. I think this was a fantastic job and the co

Since I have some time I read the study and didn’t fully understand it but I am sure KYRPA was on to something with the load Kg recommendations, in his calculator

However looking through the study I noticed an age related effect, Distal Thickness decreased with age , Proximal thickness increased linearly with age, of course the sample size was small

I am not sure how this fits into the load calculator but I thought I would raise the point, as I am 55 and have parts that will shrink , if I don’t take care a lot of things will shrink and I am determined to make them grow

Hello GtS,

As you said the sample size is small but compared to previous studies with TA, the thickness variations fall in the natural range despite the age.
The age-related effect has been detected in several studies as a loss of elastin fibers between the collagen bundles.
In some studies the thinning, not thickening of the TA after 6 decades of life is prominent.
The loss of elasticity and the thinning can lead to potential shrinkage as well, but more than that TA losing its elasticity age-related ED can engage.
The age-related thickening of the TA is hypothesized to be seen as a precursor of developing Peyronies instead.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Hi Kyrpa and everyone,

I have completed 2 cycles with the low weight FIR method, 6 weeks on and then 1 month off between each cycle.

I have gained an inch in length very nicely during these cycles. I was super excited.

However, in my 3rd cycle now, I am making no gains for 3 weeks. I am around 195mm BPFL. Why no gains I don’t understand. I gradually increased my weight every week about 0.5 lb as usual, I continued even though I didn’t see any gains. Last week I added 1 lbs to see if that would help, but still no gain. I don’t feel like adding more weights and start strengthening my penis.

I am now stuck on what to do next. Any recommendations?


Last edited by sublime311 : 04-24-2023 at .
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