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The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Kyrpa,

Thank you so much for your work. I have a MS in materials science and have just started PE in the past few months. Your research and conclusions make a lot of sense to me and I am currently on the first week of a 4-6 week cycle in which I’ll be employing your methodology. I just have one question about the recommended 20% weight increase on the cooldown set. Wouldn’t this increase in weight bring us past the inflection point on the stress strain plot into the area we are trying to avoid since we are now back down to body temperature? I see everyone recommending and implementing this increased weight during the cooldown but haven’t found the “first principles” post or study that supports this. Would you (or any other member who is knowledgeable on the topic) please humor me and explain why we need to increase weight during cooldown, and perhaps why a cooldown is even necessary at all? I understand the idea of “freezing” the fibers in their newly elongated state that’s being spread but is there a scientific basis for this idea?

Much appreciation.

Originally Posted by Meat_Slinger
Kyrpa,
Thank you so much for your work. I have a MS in materials science and have just started PE in the past few months. Your research and conclusions make a lot of sense to me and I am currently on the first week of a 4-6 week cycle in which I’ll be employing your methodology. I just have one question about the recommended 20% weight increase on the cooldown set. Wouldn’t this increase in weight bring us past the inflection point on the stress strain plot into the area we are trying to avoid since we are now back down to body temperature? I see everyone recommending and implementing this increased weight during the cooldown but haven’t found the “first principles” post or study that supports this. Would you (or any other member who is knowledgeable on the topic) please humor me and explain why we need to increase weight during cooldown, and perhaps why a cooldown is even necessary at all? I understand the idea of “freezing” the fibers in their newly elongated state that’s being spread but is there a scientific basis for this idea?
Much appreciation.

It came from me. My device precisely measures the load increase that happens naturally during fixed strain cooldown. If the strain is fixed, you will see about a 15-20% increase in load as the tissues contract. So for those using a device that doesn’t fix the strain, they will need to increase the load by 20% as the tissues cool to maintain peak strain.

In terms of research supporting maintaining the strain during cooldown, there are many references in the literature supporting this and it’s well established in tendon and ligament therapy. But the tissue should be allowed to cool slowly in ambient room temp. It was discovered that rapid cooling with ice packs actually reverses some of the strain resulting in reduced permanence. Feel free to lookup the medical studies, or just take my word for it as I have a bioengineering background.

Originally Posted by Tutt
It came from me. My device precisely measures the load increase that happens naturally during fixed strain cooldown. If the strain is fixed, you will see about a 15-20% increase in load as the tissues contract. So for those using a device that doesn’t fix the strain, they will need to increase the load by 20% as the tissues cool to maintain peak strain.

In terms of research supporting maintaining the strain during cooldown, there are many references in the literature supporting this and it’s well established in tendon and ligament therapy. But the tissue should be allowed to cool slowly in ambient room temp. It was discovered that rapid cooling with ice packs actually reverses some of the strain resulting in reduced permanence. Feel free to lookup the medical studies, or just take my word for it as I have a bioengineering background.

Thank you for the info!

Load Calculator Errors

When I try to load the load calculator I just get errors as it tries to fetch data from cells M36 and L36 which do not have any data.
Does anyone have a working version to share in Google Sheets perhaps?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by AAGaper
When I try to load the load calculator I just get errors as it tries to fetch data from cells M36 and L36 which do not have any data.
Does anyone have a working version to share in Google Sheets perhaps?

Thanks.


This might help.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

Originally Posted by AAGaper
When I try to load the load calculator I just get errors as it tries to fetch data from cells M36 and L36 which do not have any data.
Does anyone have a working version to share in Google Sheets perhaps?

Thanks.


For some reason I can’t attache the list. I try to pm you.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
This might help.

Cheers! Would love to have the working spreadsheet too though.

Originally Posted by AAGaper

Cheers! Would love to have the working spreadsheet too though.

Save it to your harddrive with new name, then open it. It is pw protected so you cannot change it, but you can change the 2 (maybe 4) input cells.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Hello guys!
I have been lurking for some time now, but I’ve got a bit of a special case here, so I’d like to ask for advice:
My penis is curved, meaning when load is applied to it, only my left (shorter) side is under tension. How should I modify my inputs in my calculations to account for this? Should I halve the input since only half of my penis is under considerable load?

Another thing: I have done traditional hanging for about one and a half months, and in that time, easily got to around 5kg (!) in weight under the old methodology. This was only possible due to it being outward extension (I’ve got a bit of a setup here), so the ligaments were not targeted strongly. This would not be possible standing up and hanging straight down, since the feeling on the ligaments would have been much more intense.

The reason I bring this up is that I’m one month off the training, no PE at all, but I still feel a sour sensation along the left side of my shaft during the day sometimes. The sensation is more noticeable after masturbation. What does this mean? It’s not pain, just some sourness as if the tissues were “used”. Sometimes more intense, but not too hard to ignore. Any help?

@ GiraffeDestiny

This is a little off topic but my dick curved slightly as well to left not much but enough to bother me. I read somewhere and it’s the best I’ve found regarding straightening your penis. Basically the only way to truly correct curvature is while you have an erection. While erect you try and straighten your penis as much as possible but never to where you ever feel any pain. Just what you can comfortably do and hold for a couple sets of 30 seconds.

I started doing this every time I had an erection and after a few months my penis is basically straight as a sword so I know for fact it works. Again, I went super slow and never tried to push too hard especially while erect.

Originally Posted by GiraffeDestiny
Hello guys!
I have been lurking for some time now, but I’ve got a bit of a special case here, so I’d like to ask for advice:
My penis is curved, meaning when load is applied to it, only my left (shorter) side is under tension. How should I modify my inputs in my calculations to account for this? Should I halve the input since only half of my penis is under considerable load?

Another thing: I have done traditional hanging for about one and a half months, and in that time, easily got to around 5kg (!) in weight under the old methodology. This was only possible due to it being outward extension (I’ve got a bit of a setup here), so the ligaments were not targeted strongly. This would not be possible standing up and hanging straight down, since the feeling on the ligaments would have been much more intense.

The reason I bring this up is that I’m one month off the training, no PE at all, but I still feel a sour sensation along the left side of my shaft during the day sometimes. The sensation is more noticeable after masturbation. What does this mean? It’s not pain, just some sourness as if the tissues were “used”. Sometimes more intense, but not too hard to ignore. Any help?

If you are concerned about overloading your penis because the left side takes all of the load, then yes, reduce your starting weight and closely watch your results. If you have progress then continue with the program. If you have no results this is an indication the weight is too light and you need to increase it.

I think we have a translation error because I do not understand what a sour sensation is as pertains to your penis. Does ache translate to what you are asking? If this is the correct description, and you have this feeling 1 month after stopping PE activity I suggest you take more time off for the problem to heal.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Dear Kyrpa or other user, Could you kindly copy-paste your Load Calculator sheet into a Google sheet or export it in the latest format? I cannot get the downloaded version to work at all. It tries to fetch data from cells that are empty.

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
For some reason I can’t attache the list. I try to pm you.

I didn’t receive any PM :(

Originally Posted by StrangerComeKno
Check out 5.5Squared’s post. He does a real good job describing how to apply this approach, when to add weight and heat. The high level summary is this, as far as I understand it.

1. Use calculator to find necessary weights at .1MPa (non heated max) and .17MPa (heated max).
2. Incrementally load weight to your .1MPa max over period of time.
3. Add heat and begin incrementally loading of weight to reach your .17MPa max over a period of time.
4. Begin cooldown portion of the session by removing heat, and adding 20%-25% more weight NOT incrementally. Hang at this weight a period of time.

Hanging with FIRe

And let’s now forget the deconditioning which I believe should be re-iterated often.
Is it best to incorporate breaks every 4-5 weeks or should it be based on the strain levels and how can one calculate this most accurately?
Is it best to hang daily until the deconditioning break or to also take off-days weekly?

Originally Posted by 5.5Squared
I downloaded your calculator and entered my flaccid circumference of 97mm/9.7cm. The suggested loads of 2.2kg and 2.6kg are exactly where I have been working!

Thank you for your dedication!

Please dumb it down for me so I can an idea of what I need to do. I’m sorry I don’t understand. Also, do I use heat or no? I apologize for not understanding

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
The load thresholds are universal, the tissue makes not much difference of the application.

Extenders, hangers, manual stretchers, jelqing, ADS setups, any of them should be kept as low as possible.

Mainly maximum of 0.17MPa.
As long as possible not to strengthen the tissue and for avoiding the adaptation to load.

Pumping and clamping should be dealed differently.

I’m just trying to understand, I apologize, how exactly do we calculate the weight needed for our size? And we need to use heat to help it? I respect your knowledge on this subject and I just want to have the complete idea, I’m sorry to be a bother

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