The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Thanks for that, I’ll get a look. I found it more interesting that the modern study gave reasons why it didn’t match the previous, making its own numbers seem inaccurate. But conversely some people’s numbers here match the modern study. Interesting stuff

I can also affirm that bundled stretches are not a breakthrough in girth and are also not superior for length. Once drawing out the force diagrams it becomes obvious why this is. Unlike length which only has a single structure for reinforcement, girth is defined by two independent structures as referenced by Kyrpa. The twist action creates excessive strain longitudinally long before it could ever create enough strain axially. Then once it does begin to strain axially, it requires even more longitudinal strain to engage the pillars. This is because the attachment points of the pillars is also free to rotate axially so there is nothing to pull against.

For length, it is inferior to simply pulling straight out which inherently targets whatever the limiting factor happens to be. Bundling places all strain on the outer layer of the TA and corpus spongiosum, when most are limited by the septum which is coincidentally least engaged through twisting. In short, unfortunately bundled stretches are worthless at best and counterproductive at worst, because if you reach the strain levels necessary for girth gains, you’ll have far exceeded the stress levels for length that will trigger your TA to toughen rapidly making any future girth or length gains impossible without a lengthy decon.

After racking my brain for far too long on the concept of girth and the physics involved, I’ve landed in the same place Kyrpa articulated above. Fundamentally we are only able to adequately target the girth limiting structures by exploiting Poisson’s effect. This is accomplished as he described by bringing the penis into a semi-erect state (but not fully erect), restricting outflow of fluid, and then compressing the cylindrical structure. Kyrpa described the method that I believe is most optimal and would target girth along and around the entire shaft simultaneously. Another version compresses the shaft laterally instead of longitudinally. Imagine a clamped semi-erect penis that is then placed between two flat surfaces (dorsally and ventrally) which are squeezed together. This would require girth expansion to the sides. I don’t like this version as much, but the concept is the same.

Sounds a bit like the “Tiger Trap”, have you experimented with it.

Very interesting points. I will have to read this again a few times for it to sink in.

Sounds a bit like the “Tiger Trap”, have you experimented with it.

Sorry, I have not read your log yet but have read many interesting things you have posted.

I am not sure if it brings the gain rate up but surely the possibility for significant strain is there with less potent tissue adaptation to load.
We haven´t seen TimeIt gain with his hybrid protocol, but I think he will.

~ RE-Read the entire PDF again to solve my question.

Flaccid, yes, without applied stretching.

I built a Tiger Trap a few years ago to study the physics of it prior to our work here with US. I still have it, but I currently belive it to be counterproductive. At the time, we didn’t have a full understanding of what triggers the strengthening/toughening response in the TA. We now understand much more clearly and it indicates that a device like the TT will unavoidably trigger that response in the tissues. In a nutshell, the device concentrates stress into focused points with numerous fulcrums. It is impossible to adequately regulate the concentrated load and/or strain rate. By the time you reach levels that would provide a noticeable strain, you will have gone well past recommended loads and rates in several concentrated locations. While it might produce a very short term gain in conjunction with heat, it will trigger rapid plateaus and lengthy decons before any more progress can be made.

For girth, currently we would like any compression to be flat and holistic so that we can control the stress levels and strain rates.

1) But anyways there have been several guys trying the US with clamping, some of them actually reporting great heat profiles but still not incapable of producing gains similar to reached when stretching flaccid shaft with the heat. It is a completely different animal.
The double-layer construction with intracavernosal pillars preventing free expansion has to be dealt with differently if aspiring fast gains.

2) What I am up to investigate with the pressure gauge clamp, is to cause artificial engorgement with a low vacuum pump having the clamp already in place.
After this, then starting to compress the penis longitudinally inside the water cylinder having ultrasound heating.

Starting low enough pressure there is not this natural erection rigidity, the structural stability is absent.
As a consequence, the possible expansion is much greater than in conventional clamping.
This of course without exceeding the 0,17 MPa limit or in other words approximately 250 mmHg clamp pressure.

3) You can try to cause a semi-erection. Then manually clamp the penis at the base, grabbing the glans firmly inside the other hand.
Then push your hands against each other compressing the shaft. By that maneuver alone you can reach greater expansion ever possible with conventional full erect clamping.
This has real potential with the US. More than the usual suspects with girth.

When you are in this new girth device, is it simply length restricted as you have mentioned in your thread with air pumping, or is there a manual plunger which you can press and external handle coming out of the top of the water cylinder so as to create a strong and variable force to compress your dick down into itself in order to achieve the Poisson Effect?

But as I think about this more, it would be difficult to have an adjustable plunger used to pressed down on our glans if the water tube is sealed as the water would need to be displaced from the tube as water is not compressible. This could get messy.

Do you have pictures of your creation you can share??

Very interesting.

I have decent length and will put the time into lengthening my septum. However, girth is where the magic is at and cracking it is extremely interesting and desirable.

Looking Forward to the Progress!!!

Those things will be dealed on another thread. But there will Be extensive reports and descriptions with pictures. Some crucial parts are made by machining and still haven’t the assembly ready .

This thread would be nice to remain dealing with the basics of the tissue we are about mould.

I can also affirm that bundled stretches are not a breakthrough in girth and are also not superior for length. Once drawing out the force diagrams it becomes obvious why this is. Unlike length which only has a single structure for reinforcement, girth is defined by two independent structures as referenced by Kyrpa. The twist action creates excessive strain longitudinally long before it could ever create enough strain axially. Then once it does begin to strain axially, it requires even more longitudinal strain to engage the pillars. This is because the attachment points of the pillars is also free to rotate axially so there is nothing to pull against.

For length, it is inferior to simply pulling straight out which inherently targets whatever the limiting factor happens to be. Bundling places all strain on the outer layer of the TA and corpus spongiosum, when most are limited by the septum which is coincidentally least engaged through twisting. In short, unfortunately bundled stretches are worthless at best and counterproductive at worst, because if you reach the strain levels necessary for girth gains, you’ll have far exceeded the stress levels for length that will trigger your TA to toughen rapidly making any future girth or length gains impossible without a lengthy decon.

After racking my brain for far too long on the concept of girth and the physics involved, I’ve landed in the same place Kyrpa articulated above. Fundamentally we are only able to adequately target the girth limiting structures by exploiting Poisson’s effect. This is accomplished as he described by bringing the penis into a semi-erect state (but not fully erect), restricting outflow of fluid, and then compressing the cylindrical structure. Kyrpa described the method that I believe is most optimal and would target girth along and around the entire shaft simultaneously. Another version compresses the shaft laterally instead of longitudinally. Imagine a clamped semi-erect penis that is then placed between two flat surfaces (dorsally and ventrally) which are squeezed together. This would require girth expansion to the sides. I don’t like this version as much, but the concept is the same.