The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Got it. Thanks for answering all my questions, appreciate it.

I guess that’s where the money is, understanding the affect temperature has on strain. Though that may be limited to empirical at the moment, like you say. Still it’s a better answer that attach 40kg to your dick. 3ish kg with appropriate heat is a great improvement

Happy to discuss these matters at any time.

The knowledge on mechanosensing cells on connective soft tissue is a vastly growing direction in science.
There we need to look at when determining the threshold strain and more likely the strain rates needed.

Going hard, fast and heavy is all against the scientific knowledge of tissue expansion or elongation.
There is of course lots of info about the heat, but it is scattered all over the field into a very specific application in modern science.

Great, I’ll definitely take advantage of that 🙂. I’ll have another think about things and see where that takes me.

I do have some questions about opinions on daily strain and cumulative strain when judging a good session and time for decon but I’ll search about a bit on that as I think there might be opinions on that already on this site.

Great , another favorite of mine

I’m adding that to my sig.

This is exactly where we are with the research right now. What is the optimal accumulation of strain and decor?

I would actually go further than one of Kyrpa’s earlier statements. He said that work done without straining beyond the physiological limit is pointless. I would say even worse, it is counterproductive. There are indeed cumulative effects on the tissues that make all future strain more difficult. I’ve settled on two very strong opinions;
(1) heat above 39C should never be applied to an unstretched penis.
(2) the penis should never be loaded beyond the stress experienced with normal erections, unless heated above 40C.

That is indeed a remarkable quote, and the solidification of this revolutionary evolved approach that Kyrpa, Tutt and many others have brought. A true radical evolution in the PE community. The missing link of PE growth.

Wondering about point 1, why do you have this opinion?

It is well documented in the literature that temp above 39C causes collagen fibers and fibrils to contract, absent any applied stress to counter that tendency. So heating the penis above 39C without load will contract, reorganize, and resolidify the collagen in a shortened state once the heat source is removed. The higher the temp gets, the worse this effect is; almost imperceptible at 39C and then amplifying convexly with each 1 degree marginal increase in temp.

To prove this to yourself, go throw a low-fat hamburger patty or bratwurst on the grill and watch the dimensional changes. IOW, heat isn’t either beneficial or detrimental, it is transformative for better or worse depending on what you are trying to accomplish. It simply assists bonds to release and then reform between both the fibers and fibrils.

If you have a patellar tendon that keeps dislocating, then placing the knee in an unloaded position, heating the tendons to 43-45C, and then allowing them to cool without stress is appropriate. Doing this repeatedly and otherwise while cool using the joint through about an 80% range of motion, will over time tighten that tendon as long as you don’t re-strain it within 9-12 months.

In our case, we have the opposite goal. Use heat to facilitate fiber and fibril sliding in an elongated direction. So the penis should never see temp above 39C without load applied.

Pretty hard to do living in Arizona.

Hahaha… you just hang out naked all the time in AZ during the summer months?

Seriously tho… it isn’t really possible to get the internal temps of the penis sustainably above 39.5C without ultrasound or radio frequency. The body does its job very well at keeping everything below that critical temp. At 41C many of the proteins can begin to denature. So every mechanism in the body works to keep all parts below 39.5C. This is why a persistent fever above 40C is life threatening. The entire body becomes unstable at that threshold.

I was going to say something similar. I doesnt matter if outside is 120 degrees, your internal temp wont go into a “fever mode” before that you will have symptoms of heat exhaustion and dehydration.

When we feel extremely hot from the weather and make us feel ike jumping naked in a pool, out internet temperature has raised probably 0.2-0.5 degree. Just like when we are freezing cold in a winter storm, our internal temp has dropped probably no more than 0.2-0.5 degree.

Right on - thanks for the explanation guys.

So by my understanding the heat is still crucial for this approach, right?

Or do you think that I can reach similar strain with enough time without heat?

For example hanging for 6-8 hours with incremental weight from 1 to 3,5kg without heat?

Extenders having the lightest loads work exactly that way. With 0.6kg - 1.2 kg loads, you will need hours to proceed through the toe region of the stress-strain curve approximating the inflection point. Otherwise, no one should gain with those things. Getting into the elastic region either load increase past the inflection point stress level or heat is needed to yield more strain.

If you are a hanger, why don´t you find out yourself? It should be easy to plot your stress-strain curve.
Load increments of 0.5 kg every ten minutes and measure the BPFSL before the next increment. Somewhere between 2.5 - 4 kg, you will find the inflection point , the strain not increasing anymore. Then you stick with the load and measure after every 30 minutes if there is extra strain.
I didn´t find any and I recall someone else finding poor outcomes as well.

Going cold, the toe region should be explored easily with lower loads if you take the time enough.
Going beyond would be challenging the time intervals are larger as well as are the load increments.

Anyone using loads beyond the inflection point is putting that much load and time mainly just strengthening their TA and causing fastly evolving adaptation to used load.
Getting back to extenders, anyone having those heavy load setups of 3 - 4 kg should not adapt to the low load extender protocols of hours a day.
They produce the strain much quicker and excessive extra time on the device is completely counterproductive.

So heat is crucial for getting beyond the strain at the point the tissue stiffens. It is crucial in avoiding tissue strengthening instead of gaining length.