The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Read the thread. It’s long but that is the only way to learn and understand the process. There is no cliffs notes version.

Hello , I have read the thread , but it seems to also imply from the start that Kyrpa and the “elders” so to speak , had another way of calculating the weight range to use before him programming his excel calculator , it would be great if someone would reply with the link to the thread that describes such an experiment

Hello, I have read the entire thread (miraculously) and please @Kyrpa can you explain why does entering the “elastic” region actually give permanent gains? In my physics class it was the plastic region that makes the stretching permanent , and BTW is there NO plastic region in the pdf figures ? (I am confused) and if yes then why?

If any other user has an answer please don’t let me hanging .
Thank you!

Thank you for asking very good question. I will take a time for a proper reply later on but here is the snippets of it.

It is a living biological soft tissue we are stretching. At certain percentage of strain the mechanosensing cells and ECM correspond to long lasting displacement by adaptation.
The structure grows into stretched length bit by bit, you don’t just stretch it to a new length.
It is the main thing in every form of tissue expansion or lengthening.

If you look into Attached picture you can see there is not very clear plastic region.
Taken from this new study.
https://www.aua journals.org/do … 000000002592.10

Typical stress strain curve for biological viscoelastic soft tissue, as it behaves purely plastic at the very end of the curve near the ultimate stress in a very small Window if at all.
The plastic range is too small, very unpredictable and needs too much load to have any use in PE.

I haven’t read through this whole thread yet, but which type of tunica are the figures based upon? A study from 2006 indicated there were several different tunica constructions. Para-Goomba posted parts of the text in post #6 of this thread.

Ok, I have connected some dots. Apparently from what I’ve been reading, people who have Ehler Danlos Syndrome could have easier (faster, bigger) results to PE. Due to the collagen issues related to that syndrome.

As a matter of fact I was reading into LOX and Anti-LOX, and given than an excess of anti-lox in rats led to a larger growth on a vaccuum device (search anti-lox penis enlargement for the experiment), and while studying the substance came across an argentinian researcher that was talking about Anti-lox creating those Ehler Danlos type conditions and structure.

I’m resuming a massive amount of info here and I’m sorry for not linking all this stuff. But trust, no one would spend 4 toi 5 hour reading all the different papers and links that brought me to this theory.

So let’s jump into practice mode. Anyone here has Ehler Danlos Syndrome? I know my ex wife did, so my sons might have. But any of you guys? And what were your results on PE? See if there is a correlation.

The thesis used as the main source of reference mentions that examined TA slices had two layers. How did they confirm it, or was it an assumption based on widely accepted mainstream knowledge? They don´t tell.

The other two sources referred do not make any notions concerning the TA structure.
As it goes for me, I do base my observations and conclusions on a two-layer basis, as it remains the accepted mainstream knowledge.

Since we don´t have access to the full data of the article you refer to, it opens up a few open questions which I have been trying to find a few times already.

First of all, was the single-layer TA found in neonatal cadavers only?

Secondly, is there a possibility that as a third, the outer layer was, in fact, Buck´s fascia? Were they unable to separate them correctly? Wouldn´t be the first time this has been found in literature when describing TA.

The thing is it is very hard to separate from the outer longitudinally orientated TA layer. During certain types of penile reconstructive surgery or penis enlargement surgery, it can´t be surgically separated from the outer TA. In fact, the separation is made between TA outer and inner layers later on to be united back together. And as a curiosity, they refer to the TA outer layer/ Buck´s fascia union as being THE Buck´s fascia. As a TA they mean the inner layer only.

Nevertheless, what we do know about the supposed three-layer composition? They never said anything about the tensile properties or the thickness of it. Could it be that there is no actual difference in tensile properties or modulus since they never tested it? Instead, they jumped on the assumption about firmer erections never testing it neither.

Filled in the excel sheet first weight is 2.3kg and second weight is 2.7kg.

Does that mean I work upto 2.7kg or start at 2.7kg

Routine idea (for me anyway) if I’ve read correctly

20 mins @ 1.25kg non heated
20 mins @ 2.5kg heated
20 mins @ 3.75kg non heated

Normally I hang 2.5kg and increase to 3.75kg then to 5kg

BPFSL is 19.5cm when hanging I go to 22-22.5cm