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The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
The load calculator for adjusting the load for your penis.

Measure the circumference near the glans and type it into the calculator.

You can change the stress input, the 0.17 MPa indicating the start of the elastic range

So using the calculater we enter are flaccid girth. This gives us the elestic limit.

For examples I am 76.2mm giving me a toe region of 7.5lbs or 3.4kg
So I would work my up to the 7.5lbs or 3.4kg cold using stress relaxtion

Then apply heat and continuing weight to .5MPa which would be 21lbs or 9.6kg?

That would seem to be a bit to heavy no?

Originally Posted by visual heratic
So using the calculater we enter are flaccid girth. This gives us the elestic limit.

For examples I am 76.2mm giving me a toe region of 7.5lbs or 3.4kg
So I would work my up to the 7.5lbs or 3.4kg cold using stress relaxtion

Then apply heat and continuing weight to .5MPa which would be 21lbs or 9.6kg?

That would seem to be a bit to heavy no?

That doesn’t fit at all. I think that you are doing something wrong. With 76 mm you end up with 1,2 kg (0.10 MPa) at SR. Heat is then applied at 2 kg (0.17 MPa).
Spectral88 created an online calculator based on Kyrpä’s excel file.
https://www.fir … calculator.net/

Originally Posted by visual heratic
So using the calculater we enter are flaccid girth. This gives us the elestic limit.

For examples I am 76.2mm giving me a toe region of 7.5lbs or 3.4kg
So I would work my up to the 7.5lbs or 3.4kg cold using stress relaxtion

Then apply heat and continuing weight to .5MPa which would be 21lbs or 9.6kg?

That would seem to be a bit to heavy no?


As Rocco pointed out your numbers do not match.

Originally Posted by Rocco25
That doesn’t fit at all. I think that you are doing something wrong. With 76 mm you end up with 1,2 kg (0.10 MPa) at SR. Heat is then applied at 2 kg (0.17 MPa).
Spectral88 created an online calculator based on Kyrpä’s excel file.
https://www.fir … calculator.net/

As for the other concerns, I would like to correct the terms used first.
For not to confuse anybody it is actually not an elastic limit. Although it may present itself as a limit of elasticity for the user it is actually just the end of the toe region and the heel region.
The un-crimping of the collagen undulations, the lining up of the collagen bundles, etc. The structure stretched out to the point of the start of the elastic region.
It is fully within its natural physiological range. At a fully erect state during sex, it is actually possible to cause such forces and strains to the tunica induced by the buckling forces.

The elastic limit lies on the other end of the range you are about to enter at around 0.17 MPa stress, in your case meaning ~2kg load.

For the suggested 0.5 MPa stress, in your case ~6 kg load, I personally would not recommend it unless you are a really experienced hanger. With therapeutic temperature not in any case.
The thing is you may need to use such loads, meaning going far beyond 0.17 MPa only when hanging cold.
With the properly heated structure, we are already making such a strain or even better temporary elongation of the penis which triggers growth responses with relatively low load.

For permanent elongation slowly to accumulate, temporary displacement in each workout reaching a specific threshold is essential.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 05-11-2023 at .

How are you doing? You are very much missed:)


Sorry for my English

Originally Posted by Holdion
How are you doing? You are very much missed:)

Hello,
Thanks, I am doing fine. In all aspects I guess.

Feel like repetition already as there is not much to tell PE-wise in a scientific(ish) manner at the moment.
Although I did run simple low-load bouts lately for recovering some decon losses. You can see the numbers in the stats.
I think I did fine refounding the peak size length-wise, and have been able to keep it.
I may need to write a summary in my log.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 05-12-2023 at .

Do you still agree with these loads now? Or do you think they should be higher?


Sorry for my English

Originally Posted by Holdion
Do you still agree with these loads now? Or do you think they should be higher?

There is no need to think otherwise with the data available. There is little or no actual data whatsoever if the increase of the load should yield gains for no gainers or not.
Another thing is if there is a possibility to gain with lower loads, I think of course it is. Lowering the load would probably mean increasing the time under tension, I would think.

The principle of low-load long duration stretch will produce better strain is the guideline in all conditions. With heat, we can decrease both the load and the time necessary.

For a non-gainer, there are few possibilities left. Then if the heat is there and confirmed to be high enough, we either prolong the pre-conditioning stretch with the lowest loads applied cold at first. Or as a secondary action increase the heated stage load in small increments.
I would not increase the time under therapeutic heat in any case.
If the user has had a long history of continuous PE with or without gains prior to all this, and not gaining, I would suggest spending a year or so off before continuing with anything.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

I don't have time for this

How do I use this method if I only have 15 min a day for PE? And I prefer to use hands my wife finds the PE contraptions creepy.


Last edited by Birddick : 05-20-2023 at .

Originally Posted by Birddick
How do I use this method if I only have 15 min a day for PE? And I prefer to use hands my wife finds the PE contraptions creepy.

Dedicate those 15 minutes to meditate why you only have 15 free minutes a day and look for a solution.

Then come back, and you will have the necessary time to exercise the routine.


Started : 07 Match 2024: 16 x 13.2 cm

Current: ???

Goal: 19x15 cm

Dear @Kyrpa,

Do you think that the use of an extender/ADS 9 hours per day (so far I don’t know the difference) with tension 2-3 cm less than the erection level can be a good idea during a 4 weeks decon?

I’m doing the fire thing. I would like to keep progressing or maintain the results, and masturbating daily is not an option.

Thank you


Started : 07 Match 2024: 16 x 13.2 cm

Current: ???

Goal: 19x15 cm

Originally Posted by Elcol.gador
Dear @Kyrpa,

Do you think that the use of an extender/ADS 9 hours per day (so far I don’t know the difference) with tension 2-3 cm less than the erection level can be a good idea during a 4 weeks decon?

I’m doing the fire thing. I would like to keep progressing or maintain the results, and masturbating daily is not an option.

Thank you

If you are using an extender or ads then you are not deconditioning. You are just working your penis with a different type of PE.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

So this method is good for an over-trained dick that stopped growing because the ligaments toughened up and resisted further growth?

Originally Posted by Birddick

So this method is good for an over-trained dick that stopped growing because the ligaments toughened up and resisted further growth?

If your dick is as you described, you need to take a long (multiple months) deconditioning break before you start this, or basically any PE activity.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
If your dick is as you described, you need to take a long (multiple months) deconditioning break before you start this, or basically any PE activity.

Na yeah, did that. Thanks. I have to try go over this thread. It’s an extremely long read any one that could highlight the key posts maybe.Kyrpa?

So we need machinery to achieve that exact temperature?

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